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#1725469 - 11/08/07 01:40 PM tow vehicle?
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For a 20' Skeeter, what would be best vehicle to tow with w/o getting a large vehicle. What could I get by with w/o going overboard on the truck/suv with gas prices as they are?

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#1725524 - 11/08/07 02:01 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: bfrnk]
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It really all depends on the total weight of your rig. Also, how far and often will you tow? My guess is that you may need a pick-up just to be safe on the highway.
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#1725534 - 11/08/07 02:04 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: throwback]
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Regular cab pick up with a v8 would work. What are you looking at?
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#1725608 - 11/08/07 02:27 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: David Lee]
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 Originally Posted By: David Lee
Regular cab pick up with a v8 would work. What are you looking at?


I agree with David. But if you are going that route you might as well go the full SUV/Pickup cuz mileage isn't going to be any different and you will be a lot more comfortable.

A 20ft boat needs a full size vehicle. Just my 2 cents.

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#1725625 - 11/08/07 02:31 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: bfrnk]
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We pull a 21' boat with a diesel Jeep Liberty. So far over 2000 miles getting 20 mpg with the boat and 25 mpg without it.

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#1726861 - 11/09/07 07:04 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Dayne]
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Well, looking at Toyota Tundra & Chev. full size. mechanic at one dealership says the chevy v8 4.6 liter works fine but don't know if I feel good about it. Does anyone use this smaller v8? also looking at maybe toyota Tacoma.

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#1728147 - 11/09/07 06:10 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: bfrnk]
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A friend of mine pulls a 24' travel trailer with that engine.

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#1728320 - 11/09/07 07:38 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Dayne]
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I have the small 8 cylinder and it will pull it fine.
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#1728540 - 11/09/07 10:17 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: David Lee]
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Your welcome to come by Moritz Chevrolet if your in the Ft Worth area and pick up a 4.8L V8 truck so you can see for your self. I will be glad to loan it to you for a trip to the lake and you can let us know how well it pulls it. No pressure to buy just come check it out and decide for yourself.

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#1728800 - 11/10/07 08:02 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Monte Coon]
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Sounds like a heck of a deal right there.
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#1729698 - 11/10/07 08:56 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: David Lee]
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I appreciate the offer, & will if my wife gets rid of her Tahoe.
If she trades it then will be forced to.

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#1729747 - 11/10/07 09:46 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: bfrnk]
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I always have to put my 2 cents in here. If looking at Toyota, talk to my uncle at Toyota of Longview (Jimmy Lancaster)
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#1733498 - 11/12/07 06:30 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: coach_lancaster]
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My Tundra gets 10mpg. pulling a19 footer.

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#1735425 - 11/13/07 01:39 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Freeman Clark]
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i pull a 1670 lb hull with my 7.3 diesel and get 17 at speed limit

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#1745635 - 11/17/07 08:49 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: David Lee]
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I have a 2006 4.7L Tundra and 19' Kenner. The truck pulls the boat down the interstate at 75 MPH just fine.
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#1746603 - 11/18/07 02:43 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: bfrnk]
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bfrnk, I am pulling a 17'6" Triton with a Chev. Ext. Cab 5.3 LTR engine. It screams like the boat is not their and the milage is still around 16/gallon. I was pulling it with a 06' Tacoma that could barely handle it (6 cylinder 4 X 4). Call Monte at Moritz and take him up on his offer. I bought mine their and have been very happy. You will not find a better offer or buying experience.

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#1746696 - 11/18/07 03:19 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: gr362]
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Guys
I'm new here to the forum and just retired and just bought my first used bass boat. Since we are talking tow vehicles, I plan on pulling a Ranger 362V that is 17'10" with my chevrolet 2004 Chevy Venture that is a front wheel drive. I dont think I'll have a problem pulling it but I'm wondering if I'll have trouble getting it out of the water with it being a front wheel drive vehicle.
Anyone have any experience along these lines or comments? I just may have to go buy me a pickup. Everyone told me that this wasnt gonna be cheap.
Thanks


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#1747832 - 11/18/07 10:06 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: irfishyir2]
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Pville I'm not sure I've ever seen a bass boat pulled with a Chevrolet Venture so I'm not sure how it would handle the boat ramps. How much does the boat weight? If I'm not mistaken that van is rated to tow around 2000 pounds.
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#1753194 - 11/21/07 08:37 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: David Lee]
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Just get a full size p/u with the big V8 option and they will all work for you. I have buddies towing 24' bay boats with 1/2 ton trucks and they work fine. Just do be like some dudes and expect good gas mileage b/c it won't happen towing a boat.

Also....get a 4x4 as it helps on some of the more "interesting" boat ramps. Down here in LA I need it on some ramps.

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#1754883 - 11/21/07 07:56 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: LargemouthSpec]
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Well, I'm trying to avoid buying another vehicle..........I have a Dodge sedan, Ford Ranger and this van and I had trouble getting my boat out of the water last week with the Ranger so I'm gonna try the van to see how it works.
Wish me luck!
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#1754997 - 11/21/07 09:04 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: irfishyir2]
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I hope it works for you Good Luck!!!
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#1755432 - 11/22/07 08:13 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: David Lee]
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I pull my Fifth Wheel and my 21' Boat behind a Dodge Mega Cab Turbo Diesel, it never misses a beat. My brother has the new '07 Dodge. It has a Jake Brake on it.
Dayne, What are the prices on the diesel Liberty?
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#1766136 - 11/27/07 05:31 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Big Red 12]
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I have a 01 chevy with the 4.8.Next will be the 5.3.The newer ones have the flex fuel.From what I read smaller engines have to work harder in which uses more fuel.If Monte offers try both.

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#1767052 - 11/28/07 05:46 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: MV]
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I wouldn't pull anything like that with a Venture Van. That 4T60-E isn't designed to pull a boat.
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#1769825 - 11/29/07 06:43 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: David Lee]
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Take Moritz up on it. You will find out a lot of things on that trip such as is there enough braking power, enough suspension to handle the load, rear mirror visibility, real fuel milage, etc.

A generous offer!
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#1799538 - 12/11/07 10:24 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Okie Waterdog]
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Awe!!! tow talk. I just can't find the right vehicle. I pulled a 17 ft Glastron w/ a 92 6 Cyl Ranger till the clutch finally gave out on me. Pulled fine down the road but the ramps gave me problems. I now pull my 21' Skeeter Fish n Ski with a 2000 Ram 1500 w/ the 318. Great down the road but I have been stuck on some steep ramps and had to get pulled out. Lately, I use my wifes 4x4 Trailblazer, (her not happy). Not sure about the long haul, but it yanks it out. My next truck will be a 4X4, here pretty soon. I am tired of slipping my wheels on a wet steep ramp. That and it seems to kill a transmission. I wonder why.
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#1836659 - 12/27/07 06:49 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Karl J.S.]
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I have a 16ft tracker to pull (lightweight). Does anybody have a full size Chevy truck with a 4.3 6cyl? I think this may be the way to go with my next truck the only problem that I can think of is the resale value but I kept my last truck for 12 years so that may not be a problem. I have also considered a Colorado 5cyl. What kind of mileage are these getting on highway? I already know it will suck when pulling a boat.

Monte: Do you know what kind of prices you are getting on these trucks say on the models without all the bells and whistles.
The only things that I need is Automatic Trans, Air, & pwr windows/locks
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#1837842 - 12/28/07 11:03 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Frogger2806]
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It all depends on whay you want to get out of it. If you just want what will do the job economicaly then any of the half tons with a v8 will do you just fine. If you are going to want to race the guy at the stop light while pulling your boat then you better get a diesle. I have been bulling a 30' travel trailer and a 20' boat with a half ton truck with a small block since 1994 and have had no problems so far. The truck now has 230000 miles on it and I still dont hesitate to hook either of the trailers up to it. Like I said before, you aint going to be lookin a zero to sixty times but it will do the job just fine.

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#1837910 - 12/28/07 11:58 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: redchevy]
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I had to consider the amount of time I was not towing..which was about 95% of the time..the other 5% I did not care what the mpg was....For me it was not worth figuring into the equation..I ended up with an 06 Tacoma dbl cab 4x4...17.5-18 mpg around town and will pull my 18' Ranger faster than the law will allow with ease...and no problems at the ramps.......

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#1847480 - 01/01/08 03:57 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: gander]
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You guys don't need a big vehicle but theres nothing wrong with one. You might be dissatisfied with the mileage of a trailblazer. They aren't much better than a 1/2 ton.
One thing to get for sure is a limited slip or locker type rear end. It will make your towing vehicle much better at the boat ramp.

If you are wanting a diesel and don't pull 10k lbs daily don't get a Dodge or Ford. The mileage isn't much these days. The leader today is the Chevy as it appears they are still getting the same they have been getting for the last few years.

Remember the 1/2 ton diesels will be out in the next year or two and they will do much better on fuel than anything out there today.

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#1847513 - 01/01/08 04:07 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Okie Waterdog]
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Chuckster, I knew several people that pulled much bigger boats all over the country with Astro vans. A guy who lived in Mexico and fished the BASS invitaionals named Raul would travel from one tournament to another, park the boat and go home till the next tournament and then fly back. His van was a number of years old and he pulled a Bass Cat Jaguar big boat (yellow and black). Another guy that used to use an Astro van was Jim Moynagh. He traveled all over the country pulling his big Ranger.

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#1849342 - 01/02/08 01:47 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Okie Waterdog]
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I have a 07 Tundra 5.7 L, 2WD and it pulls my 06 ZX 225 like its not even there. SWEET TRUCK!!!

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#1849826 - 01/02/08 04:54 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: saskeeter]
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Haven't had a problem pulling my BassCat with my GMC Sierra 1500 SLE, next truck for me is 08 Tundra 5.7 4WD. Like Allison1 said you need to have limited slip or locker type rear end.

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#1854392 - 01/04/08 10:53 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Joe Barrera]
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My '05 Nissan Frontier w/ 4.0L V6 will pull 6000 lbs and change with ease and it's never been a problem at the ramps. Pulls my buddy's 21 footer like a champ. It's basically a 3/4 size Titan and will get about 19mpg on the hwy while towing.
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#1858759 - 01/06/08 10:39 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: BNKrust]
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 Originally Posted By: BNKrust
My '05 Nissan Frontier w/ 4.0L V6 will pull 6000 lbs and change with ease and it's never been a problem at the ramps. Pulls my buddy's 21 footer like a champ. It's basically a 3/4 size Titan and will get about 19mpg on the hwy while towing.
19 mpg while towimg a 21 footer??????what must your mpg be while not towing??????

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#1859237 - 01/06/08 03:14 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: gander]
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On the highway it's around 24mpg, assuming I'm behaving... \:D
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#1861119 - 01/07/08 08:30 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: BNKrust]
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So is your nisan rated to pull six and change or have you done it. I dont think it will pull it with "ease" that is alot for a little truck. Pull it yes, not with ease. To me pulling with ease means not much change in start and stop times, and that truck with that trailer is going to have lag with six and change on the back.

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#1861527 - 01/07/08 10:53 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: redchevy]
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"I have a 16ft tracker to pull (lightweight). Does anybody have a full size Chevy truck with a 4.3 6cyl?'

I pull a 18x70 Xpress tunnel hull all over the country with a 2001 Chevy 1500, it has a 4.3 V6, automatic, air, and power. It gets right at 20 MPG @ 65 MPH without the boat and 14 MPG @ 65 MPH with it. The truck has 210,000 miles and the four wheel disc brakes make stopping easy.
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#1861849 - 01/07/08 12:49 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: jackieblue]
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redchevy, it's not a little truck. Bigger than a Ranger, smaller than a Titan. Plus, it's got nearly 300 ft-lbs of torque and 265hp. It's doing alright for itself.

To answer your questions, it's rated at 6500 lbs, have not done it, but have pulled a few boats (16'-21') and some trailers with it and the engine/drivetrain doesn't strain to do so. I can tell I'm pulling something, but it's not to the point that I have issues with accelerating or stopping.
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#1997181 - 02/21/08 07:23 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: BNKrust]
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Sorry to tell ya Redchevy, but he is correct. I have the same 4.0 v6 in my pathfinder and pull my z200 and trailer no problems. The load is 4500 pounds with full tanks. I can tell I am pulling a 20 foot boat, but the power is undeniable. 19 mpg while towing? No!! Maybe 14-16 depending on the length of the trip

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#2023855 - 02/29/08 02:31 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Okie Waterdog]
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I have a little Ford Ranger. I'm currently pulling a 16 ft. jonboat. I want to get a 19 ft. G3 that weighs 2100 lbs. The engine is 2.3l standard transmission. Does anyone think that this could pull the new boat?
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#2024065 - 02/29/08 03:54 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Danny Boy]
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Most of this trucks, be it full size or mini, will pull most bass boats up to 21ft, IMO. But the best starting, stopping, and speed is what most people really want in a tow vehicle. I personally have pulled flat bed trailers with a full size Chevy vans and those boat size Cadillacs on it with my '88 Toyota 4wd truck with the 22re motor many times. It was slow and I had to stop from a longer distance, but it pulled it just fine, it does take practice and patience though. You also have to remember that you will put more wear on the smaller trucks or smaller engined trucks because they do have to work a little harder. Luckily, 4wd Toyota trucks all have four piston calipers up front.

If I had to buy a truck that will tow only my boat occasionally, than I would go with the current Tacoma or Frontier 4wd. These trucks have a much larger V6 these days and have a good amount of torque for pulling. They are also alot larger in size, wider and longer. Gives it good stability. Plus they are easier to maneuver when you are not towing anything than a full size.

Danny Boy, I would be a careful with the ranger pulling a boat that size and weight. The ranger is a good truck, but I think you would toast the clutch up fairly quickly with a boat that size. But it is also depends on the gearing of the truck. Stopping might be an issue though.

I have found that YouTube is a great place to find research and reviews on vehicles. There is a great video comparing Frontier vs. Tacoma pulling veh on trailers and the Frontier pulled a little better.

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#2024127 - 02/29/08 04:24 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Silvia240]
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have already replaced the clutch once on this truck. My problem is I can afford the boat, but not a new boat and truck payment.
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#2024180 - 02/29/08 04:52 PM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: Danny Boy]
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 Originally Posted By: Danny Boy
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have already replaced the clutch once on this truck. My problem is I can afford the boat, but not a new boat and truck payment.


No problem. The only way to know for sure if it will pull that boat is to find a friend that is willing to let you test the towing ability of your truck with a boat or trailer similar in weight to what you want. Just don't pull it with fifth gear going down the highway, you may wear out the syncro like my Toyota. It won't stay in fifth any more. Just take it slow and easy and you should be fine, be careful at the boat ramp though. I don't know about the torque a ranger puts down. My Toyota did not have much torque, but 4 low made up the difference in tough pulling situations. I would consider upgrading the rear shocks possibly to help with the handling and maybe good tires. Good luck.


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#2043670 - 03/06/08 08:53 AM Re: tow vehicle? [Re: irfishyir2]
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The newer Toyota Tacoma's with the 4 liter V6 will tow a 20' bass rig with no problem whatso ever. I would expect it to get 17-18 towing and 22-24 without the rig. Part of your gas mileage depends on how you drive. Example my buddy has the exact same 07 truck that I have, he gets 16-18 on the hwy. and I get 20-21. He wants to run 75-85 on the interstate and I set the cruise at 72 and let her roll.I Don't have to be concerned with the troopers either.

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