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Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: SC-001] #15006437 03/03/24 10:40 PM
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I enjoy tourney fishing, both watching and competing. That said, tech was getting a bit much for my own personal enjoyment way back in the late 2000's. I sold my Alpha 211 and downsized. Later I moved to kayaks and went back to fly gear for 90% of my fishing.

I enjoyed watching these guys do their FFS deal over the last couple weekends. It has been informative, imo. I just don't want to play that game, myself, when I get on the water. I appreciate what they're doing, though. I do see where there could be legitimate considerations for limiting this stuff in competitive environments, but I guess that all depends on what kind of product you're looking to produce as the promoter.

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Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: SC-001] #15006489 03/03/24 11:28 PM
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Tournament fishing is a tiny percentage of fishing....it's a public resource though....so sooner or later, if the wrong people get pisses off, you never know what could happen....I personally think Tournament fees that are substantial should be paid for these things.....and any other Tournament of more than 20 boats should require a permit by the county......guide license is a joke and it's a grossly oversaturated deal on these public resources....wish that license required a 1000 $ fee and insurance of 250k..... FFS is just a symptom....our society is driven by shortcuts and instant gratification.... go watch a high school Tournament..... can't even compete without be able to spend considerable money....so, it's just that, driven by money..... makes me want to throw up


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Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: txmasterpo] #15006492 03/03/24 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by txmasterpo
Tournament fishing is a tiny percentage of fishing....it's a public resource though....so sooner or later, if the wrong people get pisses off, you never know what could happen....I personally think Tournament fees that are substantial should be paid for these things.....and any other Tournament of more than 20 boats should require a permit by the county......guide license is a joke and it's a grossly oversaturated deal on these public resources....wish that license required a 1000 $ fee and insurance of 250k..... FFS is just a symptom....our society is driven by shortcuts and instant gratification.... go watch a high school Tournament..... can't even compete without be able to spend considerable money....so, it's just that, driven by money..... makes me want to throw up

Tournament fees should pay for what? It’s not like they are leasing the lake/ you are more than welcome to pull up on a pro and fish right next to him.

Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: txmasterpo] #15006494 03/03/24 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by txmasterpo
Tournament fishing is a tiny percentage of fishing....it's a public resource though....so sooner or later, if the wrong people get pisses off, you never know what could happen....I personally think Tournament fees that are substantial should be paid for these things.....and any other Tournament of more than 20 boats should require a permit by the county......guide license is a joke and it's a grossly oversaturated deal on these public resources....wish that license required a 1000 $ fee and insurance of 250k..... FFS is just a symptom....our society is driven by shortcuts and instant gratification.... go watch a high school Tournament..... can't even compete without be able to spend considerable money....so, it's just that, driven by money..... makes me want to throw up


Yeah, that will fix it, more government regulations. SMH

Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: SC-001] #15006499 03/03/24 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SC-001
They all hunt low fence but do bait.


They probably have cameras that link to their phone so they can see what's hitting feeder every day also.

Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: SC-001] #15006530 03/04/24 12:18 AM
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for a small phenomenal fee I can take your buddies out fishing and give them a FFS lesson.

Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: Douglas J] #15006538 03/04/24 12:29 AM
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Those that don't or can't usually hate on the unknown.


It's sadly the American way


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Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: SC-001] #15006569 03/04/24 01:01 AM
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I don't care one way or the other, but I don't think it is cheating. No more than a hunter using a scope on his rifle.


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Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: Rayzor] #15006570 03/04/24 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Rayzor
I don't care one way or the other, but I don't think it is cheating. No more than a hunter using a scope on his rifle.



Have you ever used GPS, lake maps or 2D, SI or DI sonar?

Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: grandbassslayer] #15006584 03/04/24 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
Originally Posted by txmasterpo
Tournament fishing is a tiny percentage of fishing....it's a public resource though....so sooner or later, if the wrong people get pisses off, you never know what could happen....I personally think Tournament fees that are substantial should be paid for these things.....and any other Tournament of more than 20 boats should require a permit by the county......guide license is a joke and it's a grossly oversaturated deal on these public resources....wish that license required a 1000 $ fee and insurance of 250k..... FFS is just a symptom....our society is driven by shortcuts and instant gratification.... go watch a high school Tournament..... can't even compete without be able to spend considerable money....so, it's just that, driven by money..... makes me want to throw up

Tournament fees should pay for what? It’s not like they are leasing the lake/ you are more than welcome to pull up on a pro and fish right next to him.

Lmao you would be the first guy on the forum crying because some recreational angler was in some jack [censored]’s spot or to close .


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Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: basscaster46] #15006592 03/04/24 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by txmasterpo
Tournament fishing is a tiny percentage of fishing....it's a public resource though....so sooner or later, if the wrong people get pisses off, you never know what could happen....I personally think Tournament fees that are substantial should be paid for these things.....and any other Tournament of more than 20 boats should require a permit by the county......guide license is a joke and it's a grossly oversaturated deal on these public resources....wish that license required a 1000 $ fee and insurance of 250k..... FFS is just a symptom....our society is driven by shortcuts and instant gratification.... go watch a high school Tournament..... can't even compete without be able to spend considerable money....so, it's just that, driven by money..... makes me want to throw up

Tournament fees should pay for what? It’s not like they are leasing the lake/ you are more than welcome to pull up on a pro and fish right next to him.

Lmao you would be the first guy on the forum crying because some recreational angler was in some jack [censored]’s spot or to close .

You have me confused for someone else, I’ve been on the water fishing during elite events.

Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: Rayzor] #15006611 03/04/24 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rayzor
I don't care one way or the other, but I don't think it is cheating. No more than a hunter using a scope on his rifle.


It's not cheating because they all do it, or can do it if they want. I will say that I think it makes breaking all-time records less impressive.

Justin Hamner said when he caught the 11-7 that he had seen that fish all four days and kept coming back until he finally caught her. It occurs to me that if Roland Martin or Denny Brauer had fished a tree in 10 feet for two days without a bite he wouldn't keep running back there on days three and four to fish it.

Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: WAWI] #15006639 03/04/24 02:03 AM
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No worse than feeding trophy deer 24/7 , then shooting them 50 yards away LOL

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if you use food plots or feeders to attract deer and cameras to determine their feeding times,would that be cheating and "deer shooting" instead of deer hunting?

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Had some family over at the house for Sunday dinner, all are very avid deer hunters and casual bank fisherman but aren't in the know about tournament fishing or the new sonar technology. Had the Fork event on and their take on FFS was, "that's cheating", "shouldn't be allowed in competition". Just a casual observation from some non biased outdoorsman. Makes me wonder if this might be the standard view by most not entrenched in the sport, what do yall think?

Tell your avid deer hunters to put away their guns,, throw a corn cob with a hook in it to their deer. Convince the deer to eat it, then reel the deer in.

Hiding and shooting a deer from a blind in a baited area is cheating.

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I assume these family members are all 100% spot and stalk hunters to make such claims.

Originally Posted by WAWI
Originally Posted by SC-001
They all hunt low fence but do bait.

They probably have cameras that link to their phone so they can see what's hitting feeder every day also.


You guys can deflect all you want, I'm just saying what I observed from impartial viewers. And I bet most others might have the same re-action.

Re: A non tournament anglers view on FFS [Re: SC-001] #15006641 03/04/24 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SC-001


You guys can deflect all you want, I'm just saying what I observed from impartial ignorant viewers. And I bet most others might have the same re-action.


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...and you guys shoulda heard the comments when I showed them the Zaldain video of the electronics setups for the Bassmasters Elites, can't post some of that language here roflmao Some people in the industry need to take a 1000 foot view.

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