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 Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
[Re: NickHasty]
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08/28/18 03:14 AM
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cephusjoe
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Sure if they die then someone should eat them. I agree. Are you volunteering? I sure as heck am not eating a 5 pound smallmouth fillet, no way. Yeah that would be so horrible! Im out... hats off to your strong stance on conservation
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
[Re: cephusjoe]
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08/28/18 03:16 AM
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NickHasty
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I just hate seeing the double standard when it comes to the pros. They visit a few lakes a year and take the best possible care of their fish because 100k is riding on the line. Some fish die the world goes on. Advocating for those guys not to have live wells is ridiculous. Come on. Look, they set the standard, whether you like it or not. It isnt a double standard, it is THEE standard. They set the trends, they set the BAR. I dont think its ridiculous at all to be critical or to advocate for change, either to the schedule or to the process of weighing/handling fish. If 25% mortality is occurring, why cant we strive for 5%? Trust me, im just as critical of the club or small timers dumping their dead fish at the ramp at about 4 on Saturday afternoon. Its part of it it right? Does it really have to be?
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
[Re: cephusjoe]
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08/28/18 03:21 AM
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NickHasty
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Sure if they die then someone should eat them. I agree. Are you volunteering? I sure as heck am not eating a 5 pound smallmouth fillet, no way. Yeah that would be so horrible! Im out... hats off to your strong stance on conservation I feel like im Beating this topic up. But just look, look back to the first BASS events, when they kept 10 fish limits, they dropped to 5 and kept them alive, Its just change,and its the reality, that we need to do as good of job as possible to maintain the sport everyone loves. And I think maintaining is being progressive, and doing as best we can as sportsman to release fish healthy. From my perspective the best way to do that is boat side, AT LEAST WITH THE ELITES.
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
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08/28/18 03:31 AM
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cephusjoe
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Ill bite one more time. Are you advocating for all boats to not have have a live well?
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
[Re: slim 285]
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08/28/18 03:34 AM
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NickHasty
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Nope, im not. But I think in 10 years the elites wont have a need for one.
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
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08/28/18 03:40 AM
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cephusjoe
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I just hate seeing the double standard when it comes to the pros. They visit a few lakes a year and take the best possible care of their fish because 100k is riding on the line. Some fish die the world goes on. Advocating for those guys not to have live wells is ridiculous. Come on. Look, they set the standard, whether you like it or not. It isnt a double standard, it is THEE standard. They set the trends, they set the BAR. I dont think its ridiculous at all to be critical or to advocate for change, either to the schedule or to the process of weighing/handling fish. If 25% mortality is occurring, why cant we strive for 5%? Trust me, im just as critical of the club or small timers dumping their dead fish at the ramp at about 4 on Saturday afternoon. Its part of it it right? Does it really have to be? Then yes you are creating a double standard. You stating they set the bar is an opinion. Stating they shouldnt have live wells and the rest of us having live wells is a double standard. Again hats off to your conservation.
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
[Re: cephusjoe]
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08/28/18 03:50 AM
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NickHasty
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I just hate seeing the double standard when it comes to the pros. They visit a few lakes a year and take the best possible care of their fish because 100k is riding on the line. Some fish die the world goes on. Advocating for those guys not to have live wells is ridiculous. Come on. Look, they set the standard, whether you like it or not. It isnt a double standard, it is THEE standard. They set the trends, they set the BAR. I dont think its ridiculous at all to be critical or to advocate for change, either to the schedule or to the process of weighing/handling fish. If 25% mortality is occurring, why cant we strive for 5%? Trust me, im just as critical of the club or small timers dumping their dead fish at the ramp at about 4 on Saturday afternoon. Its part of it it right? Does it really have to be? Then yes you are creating a double standard. You stating they set the bar is an opinion. Stating they shouldnt have live wells and the rest of having live wells is a double standard. Again hats off to your conservation. Look, maybe you are an ELITE series guy, im not. Its not a double standard if i say they are SETTING the standard, that everyone else follows. Im not saying take away live wells, im Saying that with time, there wont be a need for one, just give it some time. itll happen.
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
[Re: slim 285]
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08/28/18 03:53 AM
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NickHasty
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Last little jack pot tournament i fished, a guy got pissed he couldnt keep his fish he weighed in. Trends and standards flow from the top down, thats how i see it. Im sure that BASS does everything they can to limit mortality, why not show it? Educate. Put a YouTube video out, behind the scenes elite series fish care, I bet it gets 500K views on YouTube. Ill watch it twice.
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
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08/28/18 07:42 PM
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Last little jack pot tournament i fished, a guy got pissed he couldnt keep his fish he weighed in. Trends and standards flow from the top down, thats how i see it. Im sure that BASS does everything they can to limit mortality, why not show it? Educate. Put a YouTube video out, behind the scenes elite series fish care, I bet it gets 500K views on YouTube. Ill watch it twice. Did you see the lady on BASS live Saturday demonstrate how to fizz a bass ? About a 5 minute monologue and close up of how, where and when to fizz. Very informative. There are also some fish care video's on youtube for anyone interested in them.
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
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08/28/18 07:56 PM
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Nick you should have been on Falcon in 2008 when BASS was down there. Your head would have exploded. There was dead fish everywhere alll the way from two to ten pounders floating . But I will beat a hundred to
a donut that next year there will be know where near the amount of fish killed .
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
[Re: slim 285]
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08/28/18 09:17 PM
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NickHasty
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The dead fish don't bother me. What i've been trying to say is that they are unneccessary blemish on our sport. There isn't a need to have a pile of dead fish at the end of a weigh-in JUST so you we can all see fish at a weigh in. I guess weigh ins just arent that exciting to me, I'm far more interested in the challenges, stradegies and tactics. I don't think its just me, but maybe it is, no big deal.
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
[Re: slim 285]
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09/15/18 08:13 PM
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NickHasty
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I thought a MLF formatted tour would never happen AND would be unpopular
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
[Re: slim 285]
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09/15/18 10:36 PM
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ToasterWEyes
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^^^^^ I was thinking about this thread a few days ago.....
And yea, BASS doesn't seem quite as unshakable anymore.
It's only a good cast if you catch a fish...
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
[Re: slim 285]
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09/15/18 11:00 PM
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NickHasty
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Popularity of the new format and series is obviously TBD, but no doubt things are changing.
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Re: Did dead fish cost Lucas the tournament?
[Re: slim 285]
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09/19/18 04:06 AM
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MikeSwain48
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I support Nick's Idea, we can and should do better. Its 2018, we can and should leverage technology to do this better
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