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Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
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08/20/18 06:28 PM
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CrankAddict
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So this has seemed to spark a lot of controversy on facebook and at work lately. A mutual friend posted this on facebook: My roommate took great offense to it. Her argument was that no matter what a woman looks like it's never OK to slap her on the rear. She went back and forth with this guy on FB until he blocked her. A coworker said that she wishes the sign on the wall would have included the inverse of the statement as well...that the more you act like a gentleman, the more she'll act like a lady. When I saw the quote I just agreed with it and didn't see much of an issue. Anything encouraging our kids to act like little ladies and gentlemen is a good thing IMO. There will always be dumbarses out there who will take any opportunity to get a grab in when they can. You can't get all fluffed up any time someone says or does something stupid. But if you dress appropriately and act responsibly, the number of jackwagons giving you a hard time will significantly decrease.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
[Re: CrankAddict]
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08/20/18 06:30 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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my wife has been saying that for years.
FJB
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
[Re: CrankAddict]
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08/20/18 06:33 PM
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Frenzy
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I'm gonna go with she is asking for it.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
[Re: CrankAddict]
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08/20/18 06:56 PM
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Icepick
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One need only look at the treatment of women in countries where they are covered head to toe to know that the thought process involved in abusing women isn't about what they are wearing.
This thread needs more cowbell ...
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
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08/20/18 06:58 PM
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swalker9513
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Not any middle schooler cares about acting like a "lady" or "gentleman". There probably aren't too many that could even define those words. The statement does put all the responsibility on the girl, and excuses poor behavior from boys...cause she was asking for it.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
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08/20/18 06:59 PM
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RickS.
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They should put something more like. Hey don't bully a classmate, and you may not get shot.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
[Re: RickS.]
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08/20/18 07:06 PM
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tech
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Although I don't really see anything wrong with this, it could say .. If you don't respect yourself nobody will.
Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own, instead of someone elses.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
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08/20/18 07:07 PM
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WAWI
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I would just like to go on record that I support women at the club wearing very little.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
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08/20/18 07:08 PM
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Ghost4BH
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This was being talked about on the radio this morning, and I think most of the controversary is from the quoted author, who is a well known madame or lady of night.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
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08/20/18 07:08 PM
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Alumacraft 14
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It goes both ways. I teach my sons, the same thing that my dad tuaght me. That girls are someones sister, someones duaghter, someones future wife. That changed my perspective as a young man and I landed my dream wife years later. Thanks Dad, I miss u.
Last edited by Alumacraft 14; 08/20/18 07:09 PM.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
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08/20/18 07:08 PM
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Fishingking
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Doesn't mater how the female acts. We should be above it and be a Gentleman at all times.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
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08/20/18 07:12 PM
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Dan90210 ☮
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Doesn't mater how the female acts. We should be above it and be a Gentleman at all times. Correct and that signage is akin to victim blaming. Just saying... It is.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
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08/20/18 07:13 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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Pointing out that there is a higher chance of X happening if you do/wear/go to Y is not victim blaming. Youre roommate is taking the victim blaming position. It happens frequently on social media.
Of course its not OK to grab a ladys butt without consent. If you wear a dress where your butt hangs out and go to a club, there is a higher chance of that happening, though, than if you wear a knee-length dress to church Sunday morning. Thats just reality. Thats not victim blaming, thats not absolving the butt grabber of his part, thats just pointing out that some things are more likely to happen around certain people or certain situations.
So many people cant see the obvious or just love to get outraged by everything.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
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08/20/18 07:13 PM
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Tallgrass05
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This was addressed in the 1988 movie "The Accused", with Jodie Foster.
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Re: Did she ask for it or are you not a gentleman?
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08/20/18 07:16 PM
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Jpurdue
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Nobody ever deserves to be robbed. It's inexcusable. That said, it's a bad idea to go walking through East St. Louis at 2am wearing a bunch of gold jewelry.
"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
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