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Im a workers comp liability #12867011 08/17/18 02:42 AM
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So the band was asked to play at the district teacher convocation today. We were on the gym floor, so the band just stood like we always do to play. I was standing on a chair directing, so the band could see me, when a lady from our benefits department walks up to me across the gym floor and tells me that Im not allowed to stand on a chair because its a workers comp liability. Made me do the rest of the performance from the ground where the kids couldnt see me. Mind you, we have 214 kids in our band. They dont seem to have a problem when we are trying to balance on a stadium bench though.


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Get one of those ladder platform things, we're not allowed to stand on chairs either in our workplace.

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Originally Posted By: ko bass attack 27
Get one of those ladder platform things, we're not allowed to stand on chairs either in our workplace.


Yep.
Got to get a platform.
Standing on a chair is a no no.
That lady should have complained to the principal. bolt


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Originally Posted By: Icepick
Originally Posted By: ko bass attack 27
Get one of those ladder platform things, we're not allowed to stand on chairs either in our workplace.


Yep.
Got to get a platform.
Standing on a chair is a no no.
That lady should have complained to the principal. bolt


Or called the police.

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you should have smacked her with your wizard wand.

This.

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Originally Posted By: Sawhorse
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Get one of those ladder platform things, we're not allowed to stand on chairs either in our workplace.


Yep.
Got to get a platform.
Standing on a chair is a no no.
That lady should have complained to the principal. bolt


Or called the police.


That too.
We can't have band directors playing fast and loose with the rules.
It could lead to chaos.


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Originally Posted By: Sawhorse
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Get one of those ladder platform things, we're not allowed to stand on chairs either in our workplace.


Yep.
Got to get a platform.
Standing on a chair is a no no.
That lady should have complained to the principal. bolt


Or called the police.


Should have been a citizens arrest.


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She came up to you while you were directing? Amid a music piece?

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Originally Posted By: Sawhorse
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Get one of those ladder platform things, we're not allowed to stand on chairs either in our workplace.


Yep.
Got to get a platform.
Standing on a chair is a no no.
That lady should have complained to the principal. bolt


Or called the police.

Or called OSHA . . . . .


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That is a OSHA violation, you would be removed from our job site!

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Originally Posted By: DanDaBald
Originally Posted By: Sawhorse
Originally Posted By: Icepick
Originally Posted By: ko bass attack 27
Get one of those ladder platform things, we're not allowed to stand on chairs either in our workplace.


Yep.
Got to get a platform.
Standing on a chair is a no no.
That lady should have complained to the principal. bolt


Or called the police.

Or called OSHA . . . . .

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Band director is trying to shift the blame for doing something that he should have known not to do.

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You should get the guys in metal shop to make you a portable riser that looks just like a chair for these occasions.

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You should have cried and told her it was your safe place.And she was being mean to you.

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Originally Posted By: DanDaBald
Originally Posted By: Sawhorse
Originally Posted By: Icepick
Originally Posted By: ko bass attack 27
Get one of those ladder platform things, we're not allowed to stand on chairs either in our workplace.


Yep.
Got to get a platform.
Standing on a chair is a no no.
That lady should have complained to the principal. bolt


Or called the police.

Or called OSHA . . . . .


Does 'Stand Your Ground' rules apply here?


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Reminded me of Roy D. Mercer, the Bleeder of the Band.

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You need to make your band play protest songs like We not going to take it anymore (Twisted Sister) from Twisted Sister at the first football game. You will need to be standing on a chair on the 50 yard line directing them though.

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Band director is trying to shift the blame for doing something that he should have known not to do.


Yep

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Please dont take offense to this. I have questions....

You are a conductor, correct? You are the guys who moves his arms and hands around while the band plays? I was just talking about this to a group of people and we were all asking....what are you doing? Why are you there? Then we asked each other....without said conductor, can the band play?

So when you had to get off the chair and the band couldnt see you......was the show over? Was the band still able to perform when they couldnt see you?

Im not downplaying what you do or the purpose of a conductor, I just cant figure it out. Ive never been in a choir, band so I just dont know. Educate me.


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They keep the tempo among other things.



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The benefits rep was correct in pointing out your workplace safety violation. Having said that, you must take immediate action to tamp down HR intrusion, or it will only get far, far worse. I suggest stealing one of her tires and leave the car resting on the chair. The HR department must be contained or chaos will ensue.

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For the next performance you should show up with a huge riser that can elevate you to the ceiling and spins 360 degrees in all directions just like Tommy Lee's drum kit.

It would be awesome!


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Originally Posted By: JCG57
The benefits rep was correct in pointing out your workplace safety violation. Having said that, you must take immediate action to tamp down HR intrusion, or it will only get far, far worse. I suggest stealing one of her tires and leave the car resting on the chair. The HR department must be contained or chaos will ensue.


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Originally Posted By: VIP Fishing
Please dont take offense to this. I have questions....

You are a conductor, correct? You are the guys who moves his arms and hands around while the band plays? I was just talking about this to a group of people and we were all asking....what are you doing? Why are you there? Then we asked each other....without said conductor, can the band play?

So when you had to get off the chair and the band couldnt see you......was the show over? Was the band still able to perform when they couldnt see you?

Im not downplaying what you do or the purpose of a conductor, I just cant figure it out. Ive never been in a choir, band so I just dont know. Educate me.


Im no band or orchestra expert but I believe the job of the conductor is to tell which sections/instruments to play louder, quieter, faster, slower, etc. for the best sound quality and performance.

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Borrow this from drunk Steve.


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Originally Posted By: VIP Fishing
Please dont take offense to this. I have questions....

You are a conductor, correct? You are the guys who moves his arms and hands around while the band plays? I was just talking about this to a group of people and we were all asking....what are you doing? Why are you there? Then we asked each other....without said conductor, can the band play?

So when you had to get off the chair and the band couldnt see you......was the show over? Was the band still able to perform when they couldnt see you?

Im not downplaying what you do or the purpose of a conductor, I just cant figure it out. Ive never been in a choir, band so I just dont know. Educate me.


Keep tempo, cue, adjust dynamics/style, cutoff, show band when to breathe together. Next time you watch a conductor, watch very closely. Imagine an invisible ball floating in the air just in front of their sternum. That is called the ictus. It is where the beat happens. A good director hits the same spot in the air every time to give the band a consistent place to visually see where the beat is. No matter how fast/slow you go, the ictus stays constant. The director also shows the band WHICH beat they are on. In 4/4 time there are 4 beats per measure. In 3/4 there are 3 beats per measure and so on. Each time signature has a specific pattern which tells the band where in the measure they are. Think- Down, Right, left, up or in college we say Floor, door, window, ceiling. This is imortant so if anyone gets lost, they can find where beat 1 is the next measure and get back on.

By being at ground level instead of above the band, my ictus has to shift waaaay up near head level because my hands had to be high enough for them to see. This doesnt seem like a big deal to anyone watching, but it really rattles the kids when theyve seen it one way in rehearsal a hundred times and now in a performance, everything looks totally different (or they cant see you at all).

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Originally Posted By: Jacob
So the band was asked to play at the district teacher convocation today. We were on the gym floor, so the band just stood like we always do to play. I was standing on a chair directing, so the band could see me, when a lady from our benefits department walks up to me across the gym floor and tells me that Im not allowed to stand on a chair because its a workers comp liability. Made me do the rest of the performance from the ground where the kids couldnt see me. Mind you, we have 214 kids in our band. They dont seem to have a problem when we are trying to balance on a stadium bench though.


You should have pointed your finger at her and sternly shouted " No pickles for you" That would have learnt her.


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Originally Posted By: Jacob
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Please dont take offense to this. I have questions....

You are a conductor, correct? You are the guys who moves his arms and hands around while the band plays? I was just talking about this to a group of people and we were all asking....what are you doing? Why are you there? Then we asked each other....without said conductor, can the band play?

So when you had to get off the chair and the band couldnt see you......was the show over? Was the band still able to perform when they couldnt see you?

Im not downplaying what you do or the purpose of a conductor, I just cant figure it out. Ive never been in a choir, band so I just dont know. Educate me.


Keep tempo, cue, adjust dynamics/style, cutoff, show band when to breathe together. Next time you watch a conductor, watch very closely. Imagine an invisible ball floating in the air just in front of their sternum. That is called the ictus. It is where the beat happens. A good director hits the same spot in the air every time to give the band a consistent place to visually see where the beat is. No matter how fast/slow you go, the ictus stays constant. The director also shows the band WHICH beat they are on. In 4/4 time there are 4 beats per measure. In 3/4 there are 3 beats per measure and so on. Each time signature has a specific pattern which tells the band where in the measure they are. Think- Down, Right, left, up or in college we say Floor, door, window, ceiling. This is imortant so if anyone gets lost, they can find where beat 1 is the next measure and get back on.

By being at ground level instead of above the band, my ictus has to shift waaaay up near head level because my hands had to be high enough for them to see. This doesnt seem like a big deal to anyone watching, but it really rattles the kids when theyve seen it one way in rehearsal a hundred times and now in a performance, everything looks totally different (or they cant see you at all).


Okay! I'll look for it next time. Thanks for the explanation.


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Someone turning you in for standing on a chair should be the least of your worries .My best friend Who has worked at the same school for 10 years just lost his job and reputation from accusations from a student. No proof just accusations. I would never work in a school system, especially in a small town .

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Originally Posted By: VIP Fishing
Please dont take offense to this. I have questions....

You are a conductor, correct? You are the guys who moves his arms and hands around while the band plays? I was just talking about this to a group of people and we were all asking....what are you doing? Why are you there? Then we asked each other....without said conductor, can the band play?

So when you had to get off the chair and the band couldnt see you......was the show over? Was the band still able to perform when they couldnt see you?

Im not downplaying what you do or the purpose of a conductor, I just cant figure it out. Ive never been in a choir, band so I just dont know. Educate me.


It is quite simple, His wizard wand makes the music, with it, he controls the people in the band.


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