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hand gun ? again....
#12863664
08/14/18 04:09 AM
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TLW
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small women, weak hands.. trouble racking slide. operating slide release with thumb.. figure 380 or 9 would be easiest.. are there any out there with a "lighter" operation.. I want her ta try model 19 s & w but she's a little skeptical.. really wants an auto.
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#12863668
08/14/18 04:14 AM
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Uncle Zeek
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My gut response to anyone who has trouble racking a slide is "get a revolver". The best firearm in the world is useless if you can't operate it.
"Decency is not news; it is buried in the obituaries --but it is a force stronger than crime" ~ Robert A. Heinlein Artim Law Firm, PLLC Estate planning & tax attorney 2250 Morriss Road, Suite 205, Flower Mound, Texas 75028 972-746-0758 mobile zac@artimlegal.com
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#12863669
08/14/18 04:15 AM
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Flymeister
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Re: hand gun ? again....
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#12863672
08/14/18 04:25 AM
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ko bass attack 27
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My wife has a pink Ruger 380, she has no problems with it.
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#12863675
08/14/18 04:29 AM
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Bee'z
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My P238 is smooth and easy. I agree with Zeek though. An airwieght .38 revolver would fit the bill
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#12863676
08/14/18 04:29 AM
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ruger LCR revolver 327 Magnum she can shoot shorts at shooting range and 327 at bad guys
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08/14/18 04:30 AM
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Re: hand gun ? again....
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#12863678
08/14/18 04:31 AM
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Bee'z
honey boo boo
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Never handled an LCR but that does look like a fine prospect.
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#12863696
08/14/18 05:01 AM
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TLW
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My gut response to anyone who has trouble racking a slide is "get a revolver". The best firearm in the world is useless if you can't operate it. my first instinct!.. but she wants a LOTTA bullets she says!!! thanks to all.. will makes a few stores tomorrow lookin'..
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#12863701
08/14/18 05:10 AM
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Gusick
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I recommend an FN five-seven.
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#12863709
08/14/18 06:08 AM
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fuzzion
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My wife has very weak arms and cannot rake a slide and has lost her confidence trying. She now has a Ruger LCR 38. She shoots it well, gives her confidence and makes her want keep up the practice. She has to be comfortable with her choice.
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#12863741
08/14/18 11:13 AM
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rj74955
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My wife is tiny and carries this at all times. Pricey but it's been perfect for her, we tried every slide out there and there was nothing else she was happy with.
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#12863745
08/14/18 11:27 AM
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slim1
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My wife carries a Kimber Micro 9. She has no trouble operating the slide. Great shooting little pistol.
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[Re: Bee'z]
#12863833
08/14/18 01:16 PM
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RayBob
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My P238 is smooth and easy. I agree with Zeek though. An airwieght .38 revolver would fit the bill All this plus the Sig 320 sub-compact
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#12863840
08/14/18 01:21 PM
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Gourdbuster
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Revolver. 38 snub would be great in this situation.
“You are not special. You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We're all part of the same compost heap. We're the all singing, all dancing [censored] of the world.”
-Chuck Palahniuk
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#12863846
08/14/18 01:27 PM
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SheldonS
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My gut response to anyone who has trouble racking a slide is "get a revolver". The best firearm in the world is useless if you can't operate it.
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#12863851
08/14/18 01:29 PM
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9094
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Go look at a Walther CCP. This is the easiest gun on the market for a women or someone with weaker hands and wrist to use. Very easy to rack slide and it has a new patented gas system that reroutes excess gas to reduce muzzle flip and recoil. Plus very accurate.
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#12863965
08/14/18 03:17 PM
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pwarren
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The only one my wife could rack easily is the sig P238. She sold her ruger LCR right after getting the sig. I liked her P238 so much i got a P938 for myself.
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#12864038
08/14/18 04:35 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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I vote for a Bersa thunder. just right for a smaller hand.
FJB
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#12864041
08/14/18 04:37 PM
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V-Bottom
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#12864043
08/14/18 04:40 PM
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DillonCan'tFish
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The Smith & Wesson M&P .380 Shield EZ was developed for your exact need. Also, have her grab the slide by pressing bottom of palm against one side of slide and wrapping fingers over the top (behind ejection port to avoid pinching) to grip other side, then use other hand to push forward on the back of the frame while holding it like you would when firing. This is the easiest way I have found, since it seems much easier for weaker hands to push on the bigger frame rather than trying to pull on smaller slide.
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#12864071
08/14/18 04:59 PM
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DCmac
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Another vote for Sig P238. Or P938 if she wants 9mm, very slightly larger. The wife prefers P238 mostly because it's "prettier" -- got the engraved pearl pink.
Fishing, a man knows a serenity of soul and peace of mind that he finds in doing nothing else, and it makes no difference whether or not he catches anything. The mind of a true fisherman is not on petty subjects.
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#12864072
08/14/18 04:59 PM
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redchevy
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If your too frail to work the slide on a 9mm you don't need a gun. I doubt its lack of strength that keeps them from operating the gun its unfamiliarity and uncertainty. Practice makes perfect.
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#12864081
08/14/18 05:04 PM
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patriot07
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I vote for a Bersa thunder. just right for a smaller hand. Both of these are good options. My wife shoots my 9mm shield all the time.
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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#12864084
08/14/18 05:12 PM
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Dubee
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How often is she going to need to rack the slide. If she has to use it for self defense she would only need to work it if she had a jam or malfunction.
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#12864122
08/14/18 05:33 PM
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Bass&More
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How often is she going to need to rack the slide. If she has to use it for self defense she would only need to work it if she had a jam or malfunction. need quick draw skills practice as well
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#12864165
08/14/18 06:08 PM
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Uncle Zeek
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How often is she going to need to rack the slide. If she has to use it for self defense she would only need to work it if she had a jam or malfunction. It says here in Title 2, Chapter 17, Subchapter B, Section 17.08(2)(F)(3) of Murphy's Law that a firearm is REQUIRED to jam or malfunction during a self defense situation at least once during one's lifetime.
"Decency is not news; it is buried in the obituaries --but it is a force stronger than crime" ~ Robert A. Heinlein Artim Law Firm, PLLC Estate planning & tax attorney 2250 Morriss Road, Suite 205, Flower Mound, Texas 75028 972-746-0758 mobile zac@artimlegal.com
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#12864182
08/14/18 06:24 PM
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txmasterpo
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Re: hand gun ? again....
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08/14/18 07:35 PM
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Dubee
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How often is she going to need to rack the slide. If she has to use it for self defense she would only need to work it if she had a jam or malfunction. It says here in Title 2, Chapter 17, Subchapter B, Section 17.08(2)(F)(3) of Murphy's Law that a firearm is REQUIRED to jam or malfunction during a self defense situation at least once during one's lifetime. Lol
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#12864249
08/14/18 07:42 PM
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Mudshark
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Bond Arms Derringer loaded with PDX defense rounds.
Im getting a Snake Slayer once the move is done.
Last edited by Mudshark; 08/14/18 07:42 PM.
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[Re: DCmac]
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08/14/18 07:43 PM
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DillonCan'tFish
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Another vote for Sig P238. Or P938 if she wants 9mm, very slightly larger. The wife prefers P238 mostly because it's "prettier" -- got the engraved pearl pink. These are awesome little guns as well. Easy to manipulate the slide also. TLW, one thing to remember with these, to be ready, you will need to carry with one in the chamber, hammer back, safety on. In my experience, some people are not comfortable with this, especially women, and opt to carry these with the hammer forward on an empty chamber. Just something to keep in mind when making a decision. I always tell my customers to get out and actually shoot as many pistols as possible before making a final choice.
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#12864273
08/14/18 08:16 PM
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KingwoodCat
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My gut response to anyone who has trouble racking a slide is "get a revolver". The best firearm in the world is useless if you can't operate it. What he said.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him had better take a look at the American Indian".
Henry Ford
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09/09/18 01:33 PM
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huntingnut84
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She should try the Sig P238.
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#12892776
09/09/18 04:28 PM
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Allen Bass Fisher
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My wife has a Sig 938 (9mm) she likes and shoots well with. She has small hands but has no trouble with the slide.
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09/09/18 10:15 PM
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Okie Poke
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😎 Dallas Cowboys....eventual Superbowl Champions 😎
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#12893282
09/09/18 10:41 PM
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pkskeetersr
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The Judge 410 double 0 trouble for any thing
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#12893290
09/09/18 10:43 PM
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Revolver, fewer moving parts, shoots every time.
If you need more than 5 or 6 bullets then you need to be in a different place
It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to.... W.C.Fields
I know a little about a lot of things but not a whole lot about anything....CGD
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09/10/18 10:49 AM
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RedRanger
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Revolver, fewer moving parts, shoots every time.
If you need more than 5 or 6 bullets then you need to be in a different place I had a Smith & Wesson hammerless Titanium jam on me one day while out shooting I couldn't open it to clear the jam, Had to send it back to Smith & Wesson
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[Re: pwarren]
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09/10/18 05:32 PM
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DCmac
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The only one my wife could rack easily is the sig P238. She sold her ruger LCR right after getting the sig. I liked her P238 so much i got a P938 for myself. Same story here. She didn't like the weight of the LCR, loved the P238. No trouble at all racking it, t enough recoil to bother her with an hour or two on the range. Got her the pearl pink and passed the 38LCR on to the daughter. After a couple hours at the range with her and her then-new P238 I was convinced I needed the 9mm model...liked the first so much I ended up getting a second.
Fishing, a man knows a serenity of soul and peace of mind that he finds in doing nothing else, and it makes no difference whether or not he catches anything. The mind of a true fisherman is not on petty subjects.
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#12894216
09/10/18 05:35 PM
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soggybottom
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pledge= fishstick
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[Re: slim1]
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09/10/18 07:49 PM
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Jon
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My wife carries a Kimber Micro 9. She has no trouble operating the slide. Great shooting little pistol. Both the Micro 9 and 380 have the easiest opening slides I've ever fooled with. I have a hard time understanding how such a light recoil spring can work but they sure do. The women with smaller hands that I have shot with and who have shot both pistols seem to prefer the .380 and more for the way they feel in their hands rather than recoil concerns.
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[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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09/10/18 07:54 PM
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ChuChu1
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I vote for a Bersa thunder. just right for a smaller hand. That's what I carry, and the slide is a little heavy for a woman. I would look at a Taurus seven shot revolver.
Snowflakes and entitled brats will be the doom of America!
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09/10/18 08:48 PM
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RickS.
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My gut response to anyone who has trouble racking a slide is "get a revolver". The best firearm in the world is useless if you can't operate it. This
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#12895008
09/11/18 02:38 AM
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birddogcatfish
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The small 2 revolver with no sights, long trigger pull, etc is the most common worst recommendation there is. Yes no slide but the long trigger pull makes it way more dangerous as most( Even men)
Find a gun with limited controls. Your trigger finger is the safety
Most important find one with adjustable back straps and with a reachable trigger
I train over 100 people a year and get to see allot of platforms and guns in action. Stick with glocks, Springfields, sw, and walther.
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