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Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 03:29 AM
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Chuck Miles
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I have rigged wacky rigs for years by just putting the hook through the bait. Do the O-rings provide a significant advantage?
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
[Re: Chuck Miles]
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08/10/18 03:31 AM
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Brent S
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Seems like a lot of times when I skip with the o ring, the bait and o ring slide off the hook.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 03:49 AM
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Bobby Milam
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They make the bait last longer but may not give the same action on the fall.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 03:55 AM
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Donald Harper
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No advantage except it might save you a bait or two. Matter of fact the O-Ring aligns the hook in the wrong directions which is horizontal. I want the the hook aligned vertical; so I use Shrink Tubing. Now if you want the wacky senko to come through the water in the Seahorse presentation or upright position then the O-Ring will allow it to do that. I have caught more fish with it coming through the water in a flat or horizontal presentation and with Shrink Tubing you can accomplish that with the hook point vertical.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 03:56 AM
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They make the bait last longer but may not give the same action on the fall. Essentially this, o-ring will definitely save you money but "may" result in fewer bites.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
[Re: Chuck Miles]
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08/10/18 12:30 PM
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Ken A.
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I have used O-rings for Senkos and it may save a couple baits over the day but the O-rings I used actually pinched the baits in two after a few casts and as Donald mentioned a O-ring positions the hook point parallel to the bait as opposed to 90 degrees that I prefer.
I have had some success Neko rigging the Mag Finesse worm with an O-ring tho.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 12:30 PM
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DBFishing83
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They make the bait last longer but may not give the same action on the fall. Essentially this, o-ring will definitely save you money but "may" result in fewer bites. ??? cost of O-ring tool and O-rings vs the few extra baits you may have to use ??? I bought one of the tools and then went back to hooking it straight thru the bait..... I also tried using small zip ties in various neon colors ...... if chartreuse dye on the tail will work I figured a neon colored zip tie instaed of the o-ring might work as well. You can snug the zip tie up so that the hook does not come out when "zipping" it under a dock .... did it help and get more bites,,,,,,I don't know .... didn't do a scientific study ..... but I still use them when flipping under docks. for weed beds and rocks I just go thru the stick bait with a weed guard hook ... usually a Gamma #3
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 12:37 PM
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Happykamper
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The zip ties that have the small tab that allows you to mount it to something would work well, hook through the screw hole and the hook would be 90 degree.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 12:38 PM
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Ken A.
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The zip ties that have the small tab that allows you to mount it to something would work well, hook through the screw hole and the hook would be 90 degree. I'll try those, thanks!
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 01:01 PM
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I'm with Donald. I've used shrink tubing for many years. Saves a lot of baits and presents the bait better than "O" rings.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 01:02 PM
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CCTX
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Two Orings
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 01:32 PM
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Two Orings This^^^^. One O ring = hook parallel with bait = fewer hookups(hook in line w/bait actually protects hook from fish). Two O Rings = hook at 90 degree angle from bait = way better hookup ratio(hook is completely exposed for hookset. Basically if you are loosing lots of Senkos use two O rings and your hook will still be in bait at 90 degree(cross ways) to bait for the same high hookup ratio without near as many lost baits.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 02:10 PM
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Nekro
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I use 2 o rings that cross each other, makes the bait last longer. Once I hit the lotto ill stop using it.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 04:11 PM
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Hog Jaw
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No , not for me hook it the same place every time . Too much time to gift wrap it .
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/10/18 05:09 PM
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LA Ron
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Two rings crossed for me. I do a few packages at at time while I'm sitting in my recliner.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
[Re: Chuck Miles]
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08/10/18 09:11 PM
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How do O rings change the fall of the bait? Have you watched it in a pool and compared it with and without the O ring?
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/11/18 04:00 AM
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John Stockman
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Maybe the oring thing works.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/11/18 12:12 PM
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I like to use them when I need to skip the Senko.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
[Re: Chuck Miles]
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08/11/18 01:28 PM
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Just dont cast like a maniac and you wont need them! Plus kinda pricey for a bunch of rubber bands.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/11/18 01:30 PM
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How do O rings change the fall of the bait? Have you watched it in a pool and compared it with and without the O ring? Well for one you cant hook it straight across like you can without a o-ring so that alone changes the angle by having to hook it through the o-ring. Just compare it yourself at home.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
[Re: Chuck Miles]
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08/11/18 02:06 PM
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RBO
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Big Bite Baits new Neko Wacky Stick. Softer, saltier and has an O Ring embedded in the plastic.
Last edited by RBO; 08/11/18 02:07 PM.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
[Re: Chuck Miles]
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08/11/18 03:44 PM
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Donald Harper
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They didn't do a very good job centering and leveling the O-Ring; although it is laying flat in the right direction.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/11/18 04:27 PM
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Thad Rains
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I do not use an Orign at all. That way, it doesn't keep me from fishing any bait as a wacky rig style. I have caught many fish on a wacky rigged beaver before, and a wachy rigged grog and a wacky rigged brush hawg before. Do not limit it to just a worm, you will be surprised at how many fish you can catch. Tight lines, keep safe and stay safe.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/13/18 03:50 PM
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Bassalong
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I've cut transparent plastic tubing into sections and cut two slots in the section to run a hook through. keeps hook horizontal or perpendicular to the worm. On some of these I've tied in a little mono on which to stick a split shot for weight. This is a very tough arrangement and works for skipping and regular presentation.
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Re: Wacky Rigs. O-ring or not?
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08/13/18 07:53 PM
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How do O rings change the fall of the bait? Have you watched it in a pool and compared it with and without the O ring? I've been experimenting with double o-rings crossed so that the hook is in the orientation you'd naturally have without the o-rings. It makes a HUGE difference in how long a Senko will survive skipping docks. But, I am also convinced that the o-rings hinder the classic Yamamoto Senko sinking wiggle a bit. A heavier hook with a slightly faster sink rate may compensate for the o-rings and get it to wiggle right again, but there is a difference in action with the very light hooks and line I have been using so far.
Scott Jones
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