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#12855730 - 08/06/18 07:29 PM Fortrex to Ultrex
SATopWater Offline
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Registered: 01/09/08
Posts: 553
Loc: San Antonio, Texas
So, just replaced a Fortrex with an Ultrex. Only two trips in, but some findings, for me anyway....

- The Ultrex is definitely heavier.
- I don't know why, but the Fortrex was stronger/faster than the Ultrex. I believe the Fortrex was a 102 and the Ultrex is a 112. Doesn't make sense.
- I have an SI transducer on the bottom of the Ultrex, which requires a cable up the shaft. I hate banging the cable on the mount for the Ultrex, so I need to make sure I'm rotating the Ultrex so I don't...no big deal, just need to think about it every time...I'll get used to it I'm sure.
- This thing is awesome. Only really checked a few features so far. Spot lock works. 15+ mph winds on Falcon, and yep, keeps you right where you tell it to.
- Didn't use constant speed on the Fortrex, but with the Ultrex, I can put it in Auto-pilot and then drift (on purpose) back and forth in an area using speed adjustments and really not have to manage the whole thing. Autopilot does it. Keeps me headed the same direction, with minor adjustments to the speed to accomplish what I want. Haven't completely pinned this down yet, but it's working for me in some big Falcon winds on deep rock.
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#12855739 - 08/06/18 07:39 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: SATopWater]
ezbassin Offline
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Registered: 01/15/04
Posts: 13247
Loc: Mansfield, Tx.
So do you like it or not like it? You seem to have mixed emotions.

I love mine, it works great for me. I would not go back to anything else.

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#12855754 - 08/06/18 07:43 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: SATopWater]
BigDozer66 Offline
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Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 1724
Loc: Lufkin, Texas USA
Mine should be here tomorrow and then I'll need time to install it. woot
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#12855874 - 08/06/18 09:00 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: SATopWater]
David Burton Offline
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Registered: 07/14/11
Posts: 2295
Loc: McKinney, TX
On the auto-pilot... you can use the remote to change direction, but a tap of the toe or heel can be used to input minor (or major) changes in direction and then the auto-pilot adjusts. It allows you to follow the shoreline or contour semi-automatically. This is for those of us without the ďLinkĒ and Humminbird...
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#12855895 - 08/06/18 09:15 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: SATopWater]
Flooringit Offline
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Registered: 06/30/15
Posts: 1192
Loc: Bella vista .arkansas
It is slower then the fourtrex. I have one worth every penny. Fourtrex is stronger cause it mounts better I believe.
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#12856533 - 08/07/18 01:33 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: SATopWater]
skeeterK Offline
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Registered: 05/11/17
Posts: 359
Loc: Stagecoach, TX
To help protect your ducer cable along the shaft try some spiral wrap from the BORG. You also have to make sure you run the cable to where it wont hit the U shaped bracket. Here's the link to what I use.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gardner-Bender-1-2-in-3-5-ft-Spiral-Wrap-Black-FSP-BlackT/202905458

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#12856869 - 08/07/18 06:30 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: SATopWater]
SATopWater Offline
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Registered: 01/09/08
Posts: 553
Loc: San Antonio, Texas
I do love this thing so far after two outings. The guy that installed it did a great job. I wouldn't go back to the Fortrex.

But, yes the thickness of the covering going from the transducer around the motor of the trolling motor and the gap in the place you pull it up on to the bracket, cause it to hit if I don't turn the motor a certain direction. Again, not that big of a deal, but something that I noticed.

Yes, the Fortrex was "stronger." Putting the Fortrez on 100% and pressing the button, could sort of push you back a bit if not careful. The Ultrex doesn't do that. However, I did wonder if it was just a bit smarter and "slowly" cranking the speed. Since I don't "really" know how fast/strong each is, it could be that.
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#12856926 - 08/07/18 07:11 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: SATopWater]
GIG'EM AGGIES Offline
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Registered: 05/14/14
Posts: 3581
Loc: texas
Originally Posted By: SATopWater
I do love this thing so far after two outings. The guy that installed it did a great job. I wouldn't go back to the Fortrex.

But, yes the thickness of the covering going from the transducer around the motor of the trolling motor and the gap in the place you pull it up on to the bracket, cause it to hit if I don't turn the motor a certain direction. Again, not that big of a deal, but something that I noticed.

Yes, the Fortrex was "stronger." Putting the Fortrez on 100% and pressing the button, could sort of push you back a bit if not careful. The Ultrex doesn't do that. However, I did wonder if it was just a bit smarter and "slowly" cranking the speed. Since I don't "really" know how fast/strong each is, it could be that.



The Ultrex is " smarter " topwater, it increases power slowly for a purpose. When you have it on spot lock if the motor went full power to hold you and it adjusted at a left or right angle it could throw you overboard. So it increases power slowly for that reason. If you read your manual there is an adjustment for that.
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#12856931 - 08/07/18 07:13 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: SATopWater]
EastTexasBassin Offline
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Registered: 07/15/09
Posts: 981
Loc: Lake Ray Hubbard
Beat me to it. Yes, the Ultrex accelerates slower but this is to keep you from losing your balance and falling out when you press the button.

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#12856968 - 08/07/18 07:37 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: SATopWater]
Bobby Milam Offline
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Registered: 07/13/14
Posts: 3553
Loc: Arlington
All the new bluetooth MKs build up speed slowly compared to the previous version. Change the settings on boat size and it will effect that. I used to warn people buying the old Terrovas to not listen to people who say you can never have too much power. I put a 36v on my boat and it would throw you out the side of the boat when it decided to correct one way or the other. My bluetooth version could do it also and would get up and move pretty quickly until I adjusted it. Now it is safer while fishing but you have to allow the speed to gradually build when trolling. I find it to be just as fast on the top end as the old model.

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#12856993 - 08/07/18 07:55 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: Bobby Milam]
Flooringit Offline
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Registered: 06/30/15
Posts: 1192
Loc: Bella vista .arkansas
Originally Posted By: Bobby Milam
All the new bluetooth MKs build up speed slowly compared to the previous version. Change the settings on boat size and it will effect that. I used to warn people buying the old Terrovas to not listen to people who say you can never have too much power. I put a 36v on my boat and it would throw you out the side of the boat when it decided to correct one way or the other. My bluetooth version could do it also and would get up and move pretty quickly until I adjusted it. Now it is safer while fishing but you have to allow the speed to gradually build when trolling. I find it to be just as fast on the top end as the old model.

Guess I need to read manual didnít know I was suppose to program boat size lol
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#12857283 - 08/08/18 07:34 AM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: Flooringit]
Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) Online   content
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Registered: 10/31/10
Posts: 8248
Loc: Tyler, Tx/Arlington, Tx
Originally Posted By: Flooringit
Originally Posted By: Bobby Milam
All the new bluetooth MKs build up speed slowly compared to the previous version. Change the settings on boat size and it will effect that. I used to warn people buying the old Terrovas to not listen to people who say you can never have too much power. I put a 36v on my boat and it would throw you out the side of the boat when it decided to correct one way or the other. My bluetooth version could do it also and would get up and move pretty quickly until I adjusted it. Now it is safer while fishing but you have to allow the speed to gradually build when trolling. I find it to be just as fast on the top end as the old model.

Guess I need to read manual didnít know I was suppose to program boat size lol

Idk if Iím smart enough to use this Ultrex thing haha

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#12857313 - 08/08/18 08:03 AM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
GIG'EM AGGIES Offline
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Registered: 05/14/14
Posts: 3581
Loc: texas
Originally Posted By: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
Originally Posted By: Flooringit
Originally Posted By: Bobby Milam
All the new bluetooth MKs build up speed slowly compared to the previous version. Change the settings on boat size and it will effect that. I used to warn people buying the old Terrovas to not listen to people who say you can never have too much power. I put a 36v on my boat and it would throw you out the side of the boat when it decided to correct one way or the other. My bluetooth version could do it also and would get up and move pretty quickly until I adjusted it. Now it is safer while fishing but you have to allow the speed to gradually build when trolling. I find it to be just as fast on the top end as the old model.

Guess I need to read manual didnít know I was suppose to program boat size lol

Idk if Iím smart enough to use this Ultrex thing haha


Pretty much plug n play Jake, you can do it. Hardest part is paying for it. yawn
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#12857651 - 08/08/18 12:03 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: GIG'EM AGGIES]
Mike Keenan Online   content
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Registered: 10/31/04
Posts: 10889
Loc: San Diego, Ca/ Sanger, Tx
I truly love mine, the only issue is the interference on my front helix... Iíve tried ferrit rings, Iíve run the power wires to the cranking battery and I still have the interference. Every time I touch the button the on the foot pedal I get the spots on the screen.
Anyone else having this issue?
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#12857667 - 08/08/18 12:15 PM Re: Fortrex to Ultrex [Re: SATopWater]
GIG'EM AGGIES Offline
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Registered: 05/14/14
Posts: 3581
Loc: texas
No trouble here Mike but I have a Lowrance on the bow. I have turned my 10" Bird console unit so I could see it while fishing and no interference on it. Are all your connectors covered ?
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Duct tape won't fix stupid but it will muffle the sound, lol.
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