Maybe its a technique thing. Not saying they won't catch fish, just saying I can't catch a darn thing on them. Mixed them in throughout the day several times when I was killing them on the shimee sticks.

Was catching them on black/blue shimee sticks, switched to black/blue Ocho's nothing. Go back to shimee sticks, catch fish. Doesn't make sense to me either. I find it hard to believe the actions are that much more different.

I love me some senkos� they are my favorite. But I fish the stick-o twice as much because I can afford them and also have confidence in them.

I'm probably wrong but I can't believe a bass looks, studies, sniffs, licks the bait to see if it meets all his criteria before he decides to put it in his mouth. The ones I catch shallow the bite is almost instant so I don't think they spent much time analyzing it. My best colors are pumpkin/green and watermelon/red and I dip the tail in chartreuse Spike it. I wacky rig it on 12lb. flouro and I put a 1" roofing nail in each end of the Ocho. If I fish it in water deeper than 10' I place a clam weight about 18" above the hook. Have caught bass in as shallow as 2' and as deep as 15'. Could be I'm just flat lucky and wouldn't be mad if someone called me that. I've had similar results with the Yum brand but I prefer the shape, thickness and colors of the OCHO. I am far from being an expert on stick baits or any bait as far as that goes but guess I'll continue to use what works. Now Whopper Ploppers ? I have no idea how people catch fish on those things.

You should meet me at Athens tomorrow and teach me that technique.

Here ya go Steez, here's how I do it. This color is pumpkin/green candy. Haven't tried it yet just like the name. Ken A. turned me on to that hook and only place I know to get'em is at Oak Ridge at Fork.

Yeh. I've got some weedless whacky rig hooks.

I was more suggesting you come show me your spots on Athens. Lol

I don't fish on the weekends Steez and Athens is not my home lake but when I do fish it I like the brush piles out in front of some of the boat docks in 12-15 ft. of water and they're main lake boat docks. There's also a pretty good pile near a buoy in one of the coves in 20-22 FOW. You're pretty smart, you'll find'em.

Me and Lowrance are gonna look hard tomorrow. But, I'll likely be sidetracked by some topwater stuff for a while.

I was thinking the same thing.... I catch a [censored] ton of fish on a wacky rigged yum dinger

nothing beats the action of a gy senko or dy flash. salt isn't the key ingredient like the others try to use.

I have no issue paying the price for Senkos, they're made in the US which means GY pays a 10% fed excise tax earmarked for wildlife enhancement and employs Americans. I can't say the same for BPS for sure, the price difference leads me to believe the BPS product is produced off shore and the tariff charges may not equal the 10% American mfgs have to pay.

How does it fall with nail weight both ends?

Very erratic.

I miss the Grandebass Honchos-Still have a few bags stashed. I�ll usually use Yum dingers on a shaky head on Conroe and kill em.