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Re: Question on dead fish rule
[Re: Wishunter09]
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07/26/18 05:30 PM
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Ken A.
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I would check that individual tournament's rules. If it's a working man's event they may not have a set of written rules. I still think the OP did the right thing by releasing the fish he felt was questionable.
In most events I've fished, the rules state, "Teams may keep no more than 5 bass total in the boat/live well at any time during the tournament hours"
Bass Champs: "The limit will be FIVE (5) Bass per team. Any Contestant who possesses more than the tournament limit at any time will have their catch for that day disqualified"
Pretty clear to me.
Last edited by Ken A.; 07/26/18 05:32 PM.
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
[Re: Wishunter09]
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07/26/18 05:57 PM
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
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07/26/18 07:39 PM
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In our tournament, it would be against the rules.
Culling: 5 Fish Tournament - No team may have more than five fish in their possession at any time during official tournament hours, except during the culling process whereas six fish are allowed. While one team member is culling the other team member may fish, however both anglers cannot resume fishing until culling has been completed and team possesses only five fish. 3 Fish Tournament - No team may have more than three fish in their possession at any time during official tournament hours, except during the culling process whereas four fish are allowed. While one team member is culling the other team member may fish, however both anglers cannot resume fishing until culling has been completed and team possesses only three fish.
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
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07/26/18 08:24 PM
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3 Fish Tournament - No team may have more than three fish in their possession at any time during official tournament hours, except during the culling process whereas four fish are allowed. While one team member is culling the other team member may fish, however both anglers cannot resume fishing until culling has been completed and team possesses only three fish.
What if I filet that fish that's dying, put it in the cooler, then catch my third? Are the filets still counted as a fish?
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
[Re: Wishunter09]
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07/26/18 08:35 PM
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Depends on the tournament. I have know some tournaments that allowed possession greater than the amount allowed for weigh-in. In that case, you could do it - no problem. Put in on ice and eat the dead one later.
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
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07/26/18 08:55 PM
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Appreciate the thoughts, Im with all of you on 3 fish being a 3 fish total limit. Ive been in the situation before as well and did what everyone else has done and bit the bullet and counted the dead fish as part of my bag. Was just thinking about it on a drive home the other day, if the dead fish would have been culled had it been alive, is that necessarily a bad thing or cheating if youre within your legal state possession limit?
Random thoughts of a bored fisherman on a long drive home from the lake and figured Id see what everyone else thought lol
Last edited by Wishunter09; 07/26/18 08:56 PM.
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
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07/26/18 09:00 PM
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This question should be for the TD that you are fishing with, all opinions here are mute because the final say is with the TD. Most clubs strictly prohibit the culling of dead fish. Personally I would take the hit and live with it. This is not a rant it is your responsibility to read and understand the rules for every club or tourney that you fish.
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
[Re: Wishunter09]
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07/26/18 09:16 PM
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Was just thinking about it on a drive home the other day, if the dead fish would have been culled had it been alive, is that necessarily a bad thing or cheating if youre within your legal state possession limit? I'm not sure I understand; are you asking about culling a clearly doomed, but still technically alive, fish before you get stuck with it when it dies? If the TD counts any form of faint movement as "alive" at the weigh-in table then that should be the same standard when deciding if it's permissible to cull it on the water, in my opinion.
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
[Re: Wishunter09]
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07/26/18 09:17 PM
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This brings up another question......if you stick a fish in the toungue or its profusely bleeding all over your boat and you know the fish will die, at what point is it still cool to release it? Are you allowed to cull it while its taking its last few breaths?
I dont fish tournaments, I just need to know.....
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
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07/26/18 09:18 PM
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3 Fish Tournament - No team may have more than three fish in their possession at any time during official tournament hours, except during the culling process whereas four fish are allowed. While one team member is culling the other team member may fish, however both anglers cannot resume fishing until culling has been completed and team possesses only three fish.
What if I filet that fish that's dying, put it in the cooler, then catch my third? Are the filets still counted as a fish? I'm checking your boat at the next tournament you fish with us! If I find a baggie, filet knife, cutting board or even blood on your carpet, you're DQ'd!
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
[Re: Wishunter09]
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07/26/18 09:39 PM
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In our club deal you can keep the dead fish and not weigh it. We do a 5 fish team limit and the a 3 fish individual for AOY standings. So during the tournament one guy might have 5 fish or 5 bigger fish than the other guy. One might die and the partner catches something that could take its place in the bag. It just depends on how the tournament goes. Just depends on the rules.
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
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07/26/18 09:51 PM
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I dont think dead fish should he allowed to be weighed in at all. Just my own opinion and I have had a fish or two die on me in tournaments.
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
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07/26/18 10:09 PM
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I had to weigh in a dead fish once and didn't like it worth a dam but rules are rules. I don't like Maxine Waters either but laws are laws. Don't know if it's proper or legal but would like to see some changes in that rule.
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
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07/26/18 10:19 PM
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I think it is a state law as well. It can't depend on the tournament rules, unless you state the tournament rules trump TPWD regulations. Most tournament rules have the catch all statement "Must abide by state game laws", etc... That right there means no dead fish culling, being a TPWD rule.
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Re: Question on dead fish rule
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07/27/18 02:31 PM
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3 Fish Tournament - No team may have more than three fish in their possession at any time during official tournament hours, except during the culling process whereas four fish are allowed. While one team member is culling the other team member may fish, however both anglers cannot resume fishing until culling has been completed and team possesses only three fish.
What if I filet that fish that's dying, put it in the cooler, then catch my third? Are the filets still counted as a fish? I'm checking your boat at the next tournament you fish with us! If I find a baggie, filet knife, cutting board or even blood on your carpet, you're DQ'd! I know you guys are probably joking but it is a law that you cannot fillet a fish in the boat while out on the lake.
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