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Outboards old vs new
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07/15/18 07:31 PM
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plk1122
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Hey Folks,
I am looking for a used fiberglass boat (still undecided if i want a bass boat or cc). I found a fiberglass bass boat at a price that i like, the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger is it has a carburetor 2 stroke engine (2005). This is different from my current ETEC 2 stroke (which as a computer). How much should this matter or should i take into account? Should i wait and find something with newer technology?
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/15/18 08:20 PM
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PlanoPaul
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I love the old school stuff, but thats because im poor and cant afford anything new.... Its also because they are simple to work on, and pretty reliable in my opinion if you take care of them.
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/15/18 09:00 PM
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Pat Goff
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That motor still has a computer. So far the old carb and EFI motors live a lot longer.
Pat Goff Seadrift TX
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/16/18 03:55 AM
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Pat Goff
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Meh. Go find an 18 champ or bass cat.
Pat Goff Seadrift TX
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/16/18 06:28 PM
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bradnitro175
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The like the efi motors. you should be able to find a better rig around that price.
BIG FAT BASS LIVES MATTER
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/17/18 05:15 PM
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Stump jumper
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I had a Black Max for 30 years. I don't think there is anything wrong with carbed motors as long a you learn to do basic carb overhauls. Last problem I had was pinholes in a float. Some parts were getting a little tough to find for my 1985 so I decide to sell and buy something newer. One thing I do notice with the Optimax is it seems to do a lot better on gas. Might just be the 95 gallon tank.
2200 Bay Champ/200 Mercury Optimax 2017 Tundra TSS 4x4 Crewmax 5.7L
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/17/18 06:07 PM
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T-racer @ Mallard Marine
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Nothing wrong with that motor but no to the Nitro at that price. Keep looking. Think there's better out there for the price.
Mallard Marine Nacogdoches, Tx 936-225-3244 - Authorized Sales/Service Mercury Outboards - Allison Boats
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/20/18 05:46 AM
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Bobby Milam
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He's probably too young to know how to work on a carbed motor then. LOL.
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/20/18 01:56 PM
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plk1122
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Believe it or not he is in his 50s/60s. I just trying to see what is a good value.
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/20/18 02:14 PM
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Pat Goff
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Your carb/EFI two strokes are designed to live long and burn a lot of fuel/oil. What makes them less efficient is also what makes them live long. The tolerances of new motors to achieve California requirements gives them great economy but the slightest malfunction, in addition to the garbage fuel we are forced to use makes for an alarming number of blown motors.
Pat Goff Seadrift TX
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/25/18 08:17 PM
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Curtbass
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ELITE POWER SYSTEMS/ Elite Fishing Products Lithium Battery & Charging Systems, Soft Plastics, Tackle,Tokyo Rigs Tight lines & stay safe out there.Gods blessings
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/26/18 01:29 PM
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AGSWON
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I second what Pat said. I have a '92 Johnson Fastrike 175hp with 500 hours on it. That thing is an awesome motor. Just keeps running and running. Run good quality oil and make sure to use marine fuel stabilizer if you aren't going to run the boat every couple of weeks. The stabilizer will save you on carb rebuilds.
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/27/18 10:13 AM
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Pinkus
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I like the old stuff for simplicity, but then again I really like my new Pro XS, super nice backing into the water, bumping the key and taking off.. I dont miss trying to get my old johnnyrude started, definitely dont miss fogging the whole ramp when she does come alive..
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/27/18 02:16 PM
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redchevy
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Find a four stroke and never look back.
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/31/18 02:31 PM
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texasbass1
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Find a four stroke and never look back. +1
Pat Leach USAF MSgt Retired 92 Procraft 180 Pro 24 Mercury 150 Pro XS 4 Stroke Minn Kota Ulterra 80
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/31/18 09:22 PM
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Pat Goff
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I'm going to run my carb two stroke as long as I can, there's nothing on the market that matches the power to weight ratio. A 90 four stroke or DFI would sink my scooter.
Pat Goff Seadrift TX
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/31/18 09:41 PM
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texcajun
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Not even the newer 2 strokes can come close to the power to weight ratio I have with my old Yamaha 90, 2 stroke. I'm going to run my carb two stroke as long as I can, there's nothing on the market that matches the power to weight ratio. A 90 four stroke or DFI would sink my scooter.
2002 Scandy White, 2002 Yamaha 90 Point me towards the water!
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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07/31/18 10:46 PM
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Pat Goff
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For us weight is everything. If you're going to run back lakes and cuts, inches matter and pounds matter for inches. If I blow my 90 up someday I guess I'll look international to get a replacement, cause sure can't match with what's available today. And sure not interested in running a tub that doesn't do anything else the pack isn't doing.
Pat Goff Seadrift TX
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Re: Outboards old vs new
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08/03/18 12:20 AM
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Bob Landry
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I've always heard that Yamaha 90s were beasts. I had one that was a salt water motor and a real dog, but in all fairness, and I didn't realize until later, that the previous owner did no rinsing, minimal maintenance, and fed it Walmart 2 stroke oil.
2015 Seaark 1872 MV CC Etec-90 Two Helix 12 CHIRP SI's, , MinnKota Riptide ST80/i-pilot Link, Bob's Hydraulic 2020 Robalo R200 CC, Yamaha 150
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