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#12792041 - 06/14/18 01:53 PM Any Luck on FPH ?
Whaler-170 Offline
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Registered: 12/11/17
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Loc: Abilene, TX
Since the rain we had a week ago. The lake came up a foot. We marked a lot of fish on sonar yesterday evening but could not get them to bite.

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#12792562 - 06/14/18 10:17 PM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Whaler-170]
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Loc: Abilene, Texas, Fort Phantom
I haven't been in a week or so because my boat is getting re-sprayed bed liner due to a crappy job the first time around : (

Where did you try and what did you try?

Fish are stacked up in the northern half of the lack on just about any contour line of humps, points, banks, etc.... This year I have found that location isn't too challenging because you literally can find fish almost anywhere you stop on a classic contour change on that awesome lake. The trick is knowing when to try artificial baits and when to use shad. I have found through extensive trial and error if the fish are deeper than 20 feet I rarely try to "trick" them anymore with artificial bait and have had great success with shad. Not sure if it is just because of how dirty the water is but it has become a pretty hard and fast rule for me and I rarely deviate from that. All I can say is the moment I started using shad this year a whole new world has opened up to me and I constantly boat several limits of fish 99% of the trips I take. If I don't find fish pushed shallower on contour changes then I may try for a few minutes to trick them with downriggers but so far I always have to stop and spot lock over them and feed them shad to be successful. This year this realization has taken me out of being at the mercy of lady luck on if the fish are shallow at the time I scan an area and if they are not shallow then I stop on the deeper edge where they are holding and catch them with shad. If the fish push shallow as they like to particularly do in mornings and evenings then I switch over to artificial bait and downrigging..... Hope that gives you a few general pointers for fishing FPH.
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#12792642 - 06/14/18 11:31 PM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Whaler-170]
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Thanks Clay, I havenít fished any live bait only artificials and have had pretty good luck weather itís with down riggers, trolling cranks or slabbing. I havenít had time to fish in the last five weeks until yesterday evening and this evening and the hybrids seem to have lock jaw. We caught a few whites this evening but not a one hybrid. Iím in the process of rigging up a bait tank, just waiting on the rest of my supplies to come in. I may have to try the live shad when I get it rigged up. Do you have any luck cast netting shad in the afternoon? Iím pretty good with a net but havenít thrown for shad much mostly shrimp in southern Louisiana.

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#12792720 - 06/15/18 06:41 AM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Whaler-170]
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Tuesday I was slammed. They were in, what I call, the canyons at 12-14. I don't use shad ever. Always artificial. People think I am crazy for not using shad but I catch lots of fish. When they are deep I run 20' plus deep runners and bang the bottom. Banging the bottom in FPH with your lure is the trick but don't tell anybody. I haven't featured this cartoon in my daily cartoons site but it fit the topic.





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#12792855 - 06/15/18 09:03 AM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Whaler-170]
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Timmy is the crankbait king of FPH lol.

About shad: I catch my shad from lake Kirby because I live about a mile from the ramp, I can throw my net two or three times and catch enough bait for a trip or two just a 50-100 yards from ramp. At phantom itís much tougher as any sizable deeper lake is. I can catch them in charlottes cove (main boat ramp cove), and johnson park area pretty consistently. You will need a big net. Texas letís you use a 14 foot diameter net which is what I use.
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#12792938 - 06/15/18 09:50 AM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Whaler-170]
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Remember with the new Clean, Drain and Dry law you cannot transport shad from one lake to another in lake water! I used to catch my shad at Kirby as well but with the new law it is more trouble than it is worth to transfer them from boat livewell to treated city water then back to boat. Please read up on Clean, Drain, and Dry if you are not familiar with it.
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#12792962 - 06/15/18 10:07 AM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Whaler-170]
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Yep just use city water and treat it with amqual
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#12793016 - 06/15/18 10:44 AM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Whaler-170]
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You have it figured out.
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#12793090 - 06/15/18 11:23 AM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Whaler-170]
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Yeah, ya'll keep using Shad and save the big fish for me. LOL
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#12793196 - 06/15/18 12:47 PM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Whaler-170]
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Thanks guys I appreciate the advice,I hope to catch yíall one day on the water. A friend of mine got me into down riggers a couple of years ago, thatís when I started trying to learn more about the hybrids. Had always been a largemouth fisherman till then. Therefore I prefer artificial baits unless Iím jug fishing for cats.
I love the cartoons Tim.
Thanks, Cody

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#12793215 - 06/15/18 01:14 PM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Phantom Fisherman]
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Thatís funny Tim!

Yíall I was out fishing next to tim and I caught several 4 pounders while Tim used artificials and caught like 7-9 pounders next to me. I started downrigging with huge #17 pet spoons and caught several big doubles on the downriggers! Iím not sure why but that day in that area my artificials and Timís artificials produces huge fish and the shad produced just average fish 🤔. Have no idea why!!!
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#12793368 - 06/15/18 02:58 PM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: RespectTheFish]
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Originally Posted By: RespectTheFish
Thatís funny Tim!

Yíall I was out fishing next to tim and I caught several 4 pounders while Tim used artificials and caught like 7-9 pounders next to me. I started downrigging with huge #17 pet spoons and caught several big doubles on the downriggers! Iím not sure why but that day in that area my artificials and Timís artificials produces huge fish and the shad produced just average fish 🤔. Have no idea why!!!


It was the Michael Jackson Music that got them started. I swear by it.


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#12793463 - 06/15/18 04:40 PM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Whaler-170]
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Timmy you gonna have to show me this Michael j. Thing roflmao
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#12793882 - 06/15/18 11:26 PM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: Whaler-170]
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Loc: Abilene, TX
I donít now about the Michael Jackson thing. But I hope they like CCR, Skynard, or some Texas country. Weíll see.
Could be the MJ thumper that gets them going.

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#12794093 - 06/16/18 10:17 AM Re: Any Luck on FPH ? [Re: RespectTheFish]
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Loc: Abilene, TX
Clay in response to: Where did you try and what did you try?

We tried just about everything I had in the boat Thursday afternoon. Started out trolling deep Crankbaits, even bouncing them off the bottom in places then added my down riggers into the mix with white and a chartreuse road runner buck tail jigs with trailers (which Iíve had a lot of success with in the past). Iím using 8 pound weights and was marking the balls on sonar right through the fish and could not get a bite. We then tried to slab a little with no success so decided to chase the white bass around for a while that were feeding on the surface and caught several small ones. We had fished mainly from the dam around to south of poverty point.

Thanks, Cody


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