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 Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: DBFishing83]
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06/11/18 08:45 PM
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GIG'EM AGGIES
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...DON'T WATCH them...
but why not let them have a spot .... they earned it.
you guys will sing a different tune when someone starts trying to put you out to pasture.
There you go, solved that problem. 
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed.
Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: fouzman]
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06/11/18 08:45 PM
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Chris G
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I know as strong competitors they probably hate their results but my guess is the "feel good" they are receiving at each and every event from spectators and competitors is still very rewarding. Now saying they deserve the spot is something I have more of a problem with. Saying they earned it would be a better fit than it's deserved. But like, all things, at some point it should and will come to an end.
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: Kay Dyson]
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06/11/18 08:51 PM
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GIG'EM AGGIES
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I'm on the fence about it, they maybe past their prime, but I find myself wishing them a break out moment. Then again, I also think it's not likely with the over zealous competition they face each event. C'mon Billy, remember that 'ol saying, " I'm not as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was". Those older pro's can still do it once and so can you and I. 
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed.
Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: fouzman]
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06/11/18 09:00 PM
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JCBfromTHF
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I have no idea how all of that is set up but the way I feel about it is you should have to earn your spot in the tournament just like the rest of the field or you don't belong there. Sounds like there a set number of spots reserved just for the legends. If that's the case it aint right. I love seeing the guys I grew up watching on TV still out there chunking and winding with the young guns but being a legend shouldn't give you automatic entry into a tournament.
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: 921 Phoenix]
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06/11/18 09:15 PM
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M. Alexander
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Yeah, let's take away there way of making a living after all the years they have spent helping to build and promote the industry and sport! I'm blown away on a regular basis of how ungrateful and unappreciative people are of the one's who came before them. I'm not old but I would rather have 5 minutes talking with someone like Rick Clunn than an hour with some young angler who just made the the elites and might not be there 2 years later. They make there money off of sponsorships for being ambassadors of the sport! It is a very tough way to make a living and really was back when most of those guys were winning regularly.
Best moment I have ever seen in Bassmaster history was watching Clunn win 2 years ago and seeing the other guys hang around just to see it happen. Those guys appreciate the one's who came before them and built the platform they perform on and that we all get to be fans of. +1 on this ,bass fishing is different then other sports these guys can still fish. This would be a lot different if you are talking about Nolan Ryan throwing a 100 MPH fast ball These guys were my childhood fishing idols, too, but professional level tournament fishing isn't any different than other competitive sports in that they are performance/results based. If you can't cut the mustard anymore, bow out with dignity. I appreciate their continued love and drive to compete, and pull for them to do well. Watching Clunn's win a couple years ago was truly a great moment in bass fishing, but it's hard seeing him and the other "legends" perennial bottom dwellers.
Mark
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: fouzman]
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06/11/18 09:28 PM
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TechFisherman
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What if Clunn wins the upcoming Mississippi River event. . .any opinions change?
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: JCBfromTHF]
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06/11/18 09:36 PM
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DBFishing83
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I have no idea how all of that is set up but the way I feel about it is you should have to earn your spot in the tournament just like the rest of the field or you don't belong there. Sounds like there a set number of spots reserved just for the legends. If that's the case it aint right. I love seeing the guys I grew up watching on TV still out there chunking and winding with the young guns but being a legend shouldn't give you automatic entry into a tournament. WHY isn't it RIGHT ??? even in Golf they have a few sponsor exemptions for whoever they feel like giving them to....... a few spots given to a few,,,, never hurts anything. everyone knows that a few get in JUST BECAUSE .... their name, their reputation, they know someone, they married someone it isn't like the ol'boys can't fish any longer. YOU may not be there to see them ...... but someone is there to watch them and not that young guy
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: fouzman]
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06/11/18 09:37 PM
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GIG'EM AGGIES
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Young guns Jordan Lee and Jason Christi finished 93 and 94 on the Sabine River. Rick Clunn was 59, David Fritts was 73 and Paul Elias was 79. So ......... 
Last edited by GIG'EM AGGIES; 06/11/18 09:42 PM.
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed.
Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: DBFishing83]
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06/11/18 09:53 PM
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JCBfromTHF
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I have no idea how all of that is set up but the way I feel about it is you should have to earn your spot in the tournament just like the rest of the field or you don't belong there. Sounds like there a set number of spots reserved just for the legends. If that's the case it aint right. I love seeing the guys I grew up watching on TV still out there chunking and winding with the young guns but being a legend shouldn't give you automatic entry into a tournament. WHY isn't it RIGHT ??? Cuz I said so.
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: fouzman]
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06/11/18 10:12 PM
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Douglas J
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The argument that "someone" is "taking away their way to make a living" is asinine. If by your 60's you have not planned and figured out how to support yourself into your "golden years", that one is all on you!
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: GIG'EM AGGIES]
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06/11/18 10:30 PM
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Mark Perry
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Young guns Jordan Lee and Jason Christi finished 93 and 94 on the Sabine River. Rick Clunn was 59, David Fritts was 73 and Paul Elias was 79. So ......... Look at their average end of year AOY standing the past 3 years. that is how to really look into it and see who is consistently doing well or bad. Lee has won 2 Classic titles in a year. How many Top25s have they had in same time frame? Just a question? I respect them for all they have done and whether they fish the Elites or not will not affect my respect for them in any way. Just discussing here. All can outfish me on their worst day.
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: Mark Perry]
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06/11/18 10:33 PM
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Douglas J
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Young guns Jordan Lee and Jason Christi finished 93 and 94 on the Sabine River. Rick Clunn was 59, David Fritts was 73 and Paul Elias was 79. So ......... Look at their average end of year AOY standing the past 3 years. that is how to really look into it and see who is consistently doing well or bad. Mark that is logical and doesn't play into a "feel good" narrative. Shame on you for using common sense snd hard facts to support your statement.
#MFGA
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: Mark Perry]
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06/11/18 10:59 PM
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GIG'EM AGGIES
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Young guns Jordan Lee and Jason Christi finished 93 and 94 on the Sabine River. Rick Clunn was 59, David Fritts was 73 and Paul Elias was 79. So ......... Look at their average end of year AOY standing the past 3 years. that is how to really look into it and see who is consistently doing well or bad. Lee has won 2 Classic titles in a year. How many Top25s have they had in same time frame? Just a question? I respect them for all they have done and whether they fish the Elites or not will not affect my respect for them in any way. Just discussing here. All can outfish me on their worst day. Looks like they're still making a living Mark and enjoying their sport that's all I'm saying. There are many fishing tournaments from Media to Bass Champs to the Elites who aren't making a dime but they love to compete. I wouldn't want to be the one to tell them they can't. I'm sure like Bill Dance and Roland Martin they'll know when it's time. After all, they are legends.
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed.
Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: GIG'EM AGGIES]
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06/12/18 01:12 AM
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rj74955
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[quote=GIG'EM AGGIES]Young guns Jordan Lee and Jason Christi finished 93 and 94 on the Sabine River. Rick Clunn was 59, David Fritts was 73 and Paul Elias was 79. So .........  I bet Christie appreciates being called a young gun.
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Re: Elite Series "Legends" Spots
[Re: fouzman]
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06/12/18 01:22 AM
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Richard McCarty
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Qualify for the Elite series, and then win a few, possibly the Classic, then state your opinion.
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