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#12791272 - 06/13/18 09:34 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
Jaret Latta Offline
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Registered: 01/06/07
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Loc: Austin, Tx/Nacogdoches, Tx
Catch and release is a great product. It has always helped my fish especially if bleeding. Dab a little on the spot and they last all day

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#12791561 - 06/14/18 08:11 AM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
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Loc: Southlake, Texas
Originally Posted By: Jaret Latta
Catch and release is a great product. It has always helped my fish especially if bleeding. Dab a little on the spot and they last all day


Absolutely, I use it quite a bit, especially in the hotter months.
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#12791922 - 06/14/18 12:15 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
tin man 55 Offline
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Loc: Flower Mound, TX
never seen anything like this, but would it be possible to drop a hose down 10' into the water to pull cooler water into the live well. it would have to be retractable (somehow). maybe even a separate pump with a hose attached just for the summer months???

how deep would you have to go to get cool enough water for the fish?
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#12792034 - 06/14/18 01:47 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: fouzman]
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
No coincidence that 3 of the top 7 in this event had dead fish. 1/2 pound is nothing. A 2 pound penalty would have changed the outcome rewarding the guys who took care of their fish while knocking a few of the high finishers down a few notches.

http://www.texasbassonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Livingston-Indi.pdf


I would like to note that over 155 fish were caught and weighed in this tournament. Only eight died. That's pretty impressive for over all fish care in a summer tournament. I only singled out that event to point out that dead fish penalties aren't punitive enough, IMO.
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#12792052 - 06/14/18 01:59 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: fouzman]
the skipper Offline
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Registered: 07/04/11
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Loc: nederland, TX
Originally Posted By: fouzman
Originally Posted By: fouzman
No coincidence that 3 of the top 7 in this event had dead fish. 1/2 pound is nothing. A 2 pound penalty would have changed the outcome rewarding the guys who took care of their fish while knocking a few of the high finishers down a few notches.

http://www.texasbassonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Livingston-Indi.pdf


I would like to note that over 155 fish were caught and weighed in this tournament. Only eight died. That's pretty impressive for over all fish care in a summer tournament. I only singled out that event to point out that dead fish penalties aren't punitive enough, IMO.

I think the issue most are seeing isn't the ones weighed in dead, it's the post mortality a day or so later. I like the penalty idea though. When it start hurting the pockets it will atleast solve some of it

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#12792075 - 06/14/18 02:15 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: fouzman]
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Registered: 11/18/16
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Loc: East Texas
Originally Posted By: fouzman
Originally Posted By: fouzman
No coincidence that 3 of the top 7 in this event had dead fish. 1/2 pound is nothing. A 2 pound penalty would have changed the outcome rewarding the guys who took care of their fish while knocking a few of the high finishers down a few notches.

http://www.texasbassonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Livingston-Indi.pdf


I would like to note that over 155 fish were caught and weighed in this tournament. Only eight died. That's pretty impressive for over all fish care in a summer tournament. I only singled out that event to point out that dead fish penalties aren't punitive enough, IMO.


It helps that the vast majority of all fish caught in Livingston are in less than 5'. It is much easier to keep them alive all day than a fish caught in 25'.
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#12792180 - 06/14/18 03:43 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: tin man 55]
Jaret Latta Offline
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Originally Posted By: tin man 55
never seen anything like this, but would it be possible to drop a hose down 10' into the water to pull cooler water into the live well. it would have to be retractable (somehow). maybe even a separate pump with a hose attached just for the summer months???

how deep would you have to go to get cool enough water for the fish?




Easier to bring ice

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#12792234 - 06/14/18 04:29 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: tin man 55]
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Registered: 02/27/13
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Loc: Hideaway, TX
Originally Posted By: tin man 55
never seen anything like this, but would it be possible to drop a hose down 10' into the water to pull cooler water into the live well. it would have to be retractable (somehow). maybe even a separate pump with a hose attached just for the summer months???

how deep would you have to go to get cool enough water for the fish?




Interesting idea ^^^^^^^

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#12792268 - 06/14/18 04:56 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: tin man 55]
the skipper Offline
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Registered: 07/04/11
Posts: 4189
Loc: nederland, TX
Originally Posted By: tin man 55
never seen anything like this, but would it be possible to drop a hose down 10' into the water to pull cooler water into the live well. it would have to be retractable (somehow). maybe even a separate pump with a hose attached just for the summer months???

how deep would you have to go to get cool enough water for the fish?



It would get better water but without throwing a pump over or a having an extra with a hose I don't think it's feasible. It's not a bad idea though. If you were to pump in water from 10' down it would certainly be better than surface water

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#12792316 - 06/14/18 05:40 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: the skipper]
Joefishin Offline
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Registered: 09/29/03
Posts: 12813
Loc: Plano, Tx
Originally Posted By: the skipper
Originally Posted By: fouzman
Originally Posted By: fouzman
No coincidence that 3 of the top 7 in this event had dead fish. 1/2 pound is nothing. A 2 pound penalty would have changed the outcome rewarding the guys who took care of their fish while knocking a few of the high finishers down a few notches.

http://www.texasbassonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Livingston-Indi.pdf


I would like to note that over 155 fish were caught and weighed in this tournament. Only eight died. That's pretty impressive for over all fish care in a summer tournament. I only singled out that event to point out that dead fish penalties aren't punitive enough, IMO.

I think the issue most are seeing isn't the ones weighed in dead, it's the post mortality a day or so later. I like the penalty idea though. When it start hurting the pockets it will atleast solve some of it


A 2lb penalty will also help with delayed mortality. Simply because all fish will be cared for better. cheers I like the idea personally, plus the 3 fish stringer. Not a fan of the July/August tournaments.

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