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#12787896 - 06/11/18 11:48 AM Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish
Jaret Latta Offline
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In the last 3 weeks I've heard of lots of dead fish on Rayburn during TxTT Championship, ABA weekend series and the tournament out of Monterrey. I know tpw has done studies on delayed mortality but at what point do they stop having events in the summer? I think they should be required to have a release boat instead of dumping at the ramp. Maybe even pay tpw to help with fish care. Can't be good for the fishery to be losing lots of big fish. Ultimately it's up the angler but it sure seems alot of guys just aren't making the extra effort.

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#12787905 - 06/11/18 11:54 AM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
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I think TPWD should just outlaw tournaments completely. Just kidding. However, I think having five fish stringer tournaments anywhere in Texas this time of year is STUPID. 3 fish max and a 2 lb penalty for a dead fish, instead of .50 lb.
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#12787913 - 06/11/18 11:57 AM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: fouzman]
Jaret Latta Offline
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
I think TPWD should just outlaw tournaments completely. Just kidding. However, I think having five fish stringer tournaments anywhere in Texas this time of year is STUPID. 3 fish max and a 2 lb penalty for a dead fish, instead of .50 lb.


I agree.... sometimes you got to protect guys from themselves. I believe alot go into an event with no hopes of winning so they really don't put extra effort into keeping them alive. Rayburn in awesome shape but can't be good to be losing 5-9lbers each week cause of neglect

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#12787916 - 06/11/18 12:01 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
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No coincidence that 3 of the top 7 in this event had dead fish. 1/2 pound is nothing. A 2 pound penalty would have changed the outcome rewarding the guys who took care of their fish while knocking a few of the high finishers down a few notches.

http://www.texasbassonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Livingston-Indi.pdf
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#12787941 - 06/11/18 12:12 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
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I think tournament trails need to educate guys better on icing, chemical & most importantly fizzing a fish. 5 fish summer tournaments are fine. Maybe a 1-2 pound penalty would motivate guys to pay more attention.
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#12787958 - 06/11/18 12:20 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
Jaret Latta Offline
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Sealy has a release boat. Big tournaments should be required to use it. Dumping at the ramp at 5pm can't be good

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#12787973 - 06/11/18 12:32 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
bassmanrudy Offline
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Yeah dead fish and summer heat sure seem to coincide regrettably. I have tried ice/additives/changing water/etc and sometimes 1 will just die. I do think some anglers basically "don't care" as like stated above the penalty isn't really a penalty. Had a friend weigh in 25+ off a local lake last weekend and all were dead. He didn't say what he had tried but damn he had a 8 and a 7...

A topic that I don't see discussed much is the actual livewell itself. Most have aluminum lids carpeted over that get super hot to the touch why not add some sort of insulation to the bottom that can cool things down? Or maybe add a drain line that feeds from the ice chest to the livewell that as the day goes on adds a little cooler water? We spend like $100K on some of these rigs but the overall livewell idea/operation hasn't changed much at all in years.

I like the idea of a live release boat. Or at least all the bigger tourneys should have the aerated/additive filled tubs for guys to keep the fish in while waiting and tents for shade. Good topic I'm curious what other ideas come along.
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#12787980 - 06/11/18 12:37 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
J-Y-D Online   content
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ABA has a release boat and a employee exercising fish care at it. Maybe the damage is already done by the time the fish reaches him, but it's a good effort.

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#12787987 - 06/11/18 12:40 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
Clark3 Offline
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I know It sucks to see, but to put it in perspective 40 years ago 100% of the fish caught in a tourney died. We’ve came a long way
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#12787991 - 06/11/18 12:41 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: fouzman]
WackySenko Offline
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
No coincidence that 3 of the top 7 in this event had dead fish. 1/2 pound is nothing. A 2 pound penalty would have changed the outcome rewarding the guys who took care of their fish while knocking a few of the high finishers down a few notches.

http://www.texasbassonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Livingston-Indi.pdf


Is it coincidence if the mortality rate is worse for a four fish limit and only slightly better for two? I'm all for dropping the # to three in the heat as it would save fish but an additional penalty is unsupported given that particular data. Imo of course
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#12787994 - 06/11/18 12:43 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Clark3]
WackySenko Offline
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Originally Posted By: Clark3
I know It sucks to see, but to put it in perspective 40 years ago 100% of the fish caught in a tourney died. We’ve came a long way


Also agree with that. Could always be better but what we do now is fairly impressive.
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#12788001 - 06/11/18 12:46 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: WackySenko]
James Biggs Online   content
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Originally Posted By: WackySenko
Originally Posted By: Clark3
I know It sucks to see, but to put it in perspective 40 years ago 100% of the fish caught in a tourney died. We’ve came a long way


Also agree with that. Could always be better but what we do now is fairly impressive.


+1 as well
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#12788020 - 06/11/18 12:56 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
Jaret Latta Offline
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No matter what livewell you have, if you have an aerator pump running all day, plenty of ice, catch and release treatment, proper fizzing and or fin clips....your fish will be much better at weigh in compared to guys who don't

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#12788024 - 06/11/18 12:59 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
Jaret Latta Offline
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I made these in about 15 min and for about $25. Stick them on the fish immediately as it goes into livewell. I check every 15 min and fizz accordingly within 30 min unless they instantly swell up

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#12788029 - 06/11/18 01:03 PM Re: Summer Tournaments and Dead Fish [Re: Jaret Latta]
Jaret Latta Offline
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