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#12787310 - 06/10/18 09:57 PM Hackney trimming a frog
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Did any of you guys see Hackney trimming the "legs" of a frog so that it would walk the dog? He would cut single strands from each leg until the frog would walk back and forth.. I've never seen anybody do that before.

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#12787365 - 06/10/18 11:35 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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Old trick cutting one leg shorter but I have not seen single strands cut. I'd assume anything that creates less drag on one side would make it walk. Wonder what the advantage is as to just having a peg leg. Obviously the profile remains more similar I guess that could matter. Pretty cool idea.


Edited by WackySenko (06/10/18 11:38 PM)
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#12787842 - 06/11/18 11:20 AM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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This frog walks really really well, you can basically flip it back and forth in the same spot darn near forever on slack 65 lb braid.... I just tried it for the first time the other day I havent got bit yet to see how the hook up is the body is a little more firm than I prefer but it may still be just fine.



http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Deps_Buster_K_Hollow_Body_Popping_Frog/descpage-DBK.html


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#12787944 - 06/11/18 12:14 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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Cutting the legs works well, make sure you leave one at least 3/8 longer than the other and use a high speed reel and not a Revo winch. There is a big difference in 5.4 to 6.3 ratio yawn . peep

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#12787974 - 06/11/18 12:32 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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Interesting - may have to give that a try on one of my frogs.
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#12787983 - 06/11/18 12:39 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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Was this a hollow body or plastic floater?

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#12788058 - 06/11/18 01:19 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: retdbasser]
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Originally Posted By: retdbasser
Was this a hollow body or plastic floater?


Works on any hollow body but some work better than others. Spro spittin shad walks great right out of the box. I've heard strike king has a couple new ones being introduced this year also...

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#12788067 - 06/11/18 01:25 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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This Sproh I bought last week "walks" great right outta the box.


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#12788082 - 06/11/18 01:35 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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That ain't a spro. It's a booyah

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#12788086 - 06/11/18 01:41 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: the skipper]
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Originally Posted By: the skipper
That ain't a spro. It's a booyah


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#12788097 - 06/11/18 01:49 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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#12788102 - 06/11/18 01:53 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: the skipper]
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Originally Posted By: the skipper
That ain't a spro. It's a booyah


You're probably right.....I lose track sometimes.

It works nicely.
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#12788440 - 06/11/18 06:15 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Fish2222]
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Originally Posted By: Fish2222
Originally Posted By: the skipper
That ain't a spro. It's a booyah


You're probably right.....I lose track sometimes.

It works nicely.


Definitely a booyah
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#12788473 - 06/11/18 06:36 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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he wasn't removing strands to help it walk he said he was trying to get it to "sit right" in the water

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#12788685 - 06/11/18 09:17 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Matt Wilson]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Wilson
he wasn't removing strands to help it walk he said he was trying to get it to "sit right" in the water


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#12788688 - 06/11/18 09:18 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: the skipper]
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Originally Posted By: the skipper
That ain't a spro. It's a booyah
But he has a Spro sticker on his boat

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#12788725 - 06/11/18 09:48 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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I shined a flash light all over that picture and it's still to dark to see a sticker. roflmao
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#12788871 - 06/12/18 05:48 AM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Donald Harper]
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I shined a flash light all over that picture and it's still to dark to see a sticker. roflmao


Spro has distinct eyes.

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#12788939 - 06/12/18 07:37 AM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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Frogs are designed to walk. Don't have to trim the legs to do that. Just give it little short choppy jerks on slack line.
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#12789101 - 06/12/18 09:30 AM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Fish2222]
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Originally Posted By: Fish2222
Originally Posted By: the skipper
That ain't a spro. It's a booyah


You're probably right.....I lose track sometimes.

It works nicely.

They do work good. And softer out of the package than a spro

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#12789864 - 06/12/18 05:56 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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I hold the frog upside down and trim the legs to the nose of the frog. Most of them will walk just fine with short twitches. I use an 8-1 gear ratio Lews Super Duty reel.

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#12790349 - 06/13/18 08:08 AM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Cass Caldwell]
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Originally Posted By: Cass Caldwell
Frogs are designed to walk. Don't have to trim the legs to do that. Just give it little short choppy jerks on slack line.


Yes that is true but just like tuning a crankbait that doesn't run 100% right out of the package, sometimes a frog needs some help.

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#12790360 - 06/13/18 08:18 AM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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Any hard bait I buy first thing I do is take my wood rasp and mark it up. Make it look different , injuryed also on soft plastic take off a craw etc . Been doing that for years .

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#12790397 - 06/13/18 09:03 AM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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#12790492 - 06/13/18 10:15 AM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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They will all walk a lot easier if you tie a loop knot and not cinch tie directly to the head.

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#12790567 - 06/13/18 11:46 AM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: sll]
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They will all walk a lot easier if you tie a loop knot and not cinch tie directly to the head.


Im not gonna trust a loop knot when I hammer crack a 5lber in grass with 65lb braid a big rod.

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#12790644 - 06/13/18 12:41 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
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Originally Posted By: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
Originally Posted By: sll
They will all walk a lot easier if you tie a loop knot and not cinch tie directly to the head.


Im not gonna trust a loop knot when I hammer crack a 5lber in grass with 65lb braid a big rod.
Don't bother me a bit and I use mono mostly. Faith in the right knot means a lot. The loop knot I use I have taught to many people over the last 2 decades. I have proven to them many times that you will not break the line below the knot.....if the line does break it will most always be 3-6 inches above it.

I don't take credit for coming up with it as Paul Elias showed me how to tie it in 1982 after his Classic victory. coolio

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#12790649 - 06/13/18 12:45 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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I'm not the most experienced fisherman when it comes to frogs, but the frogs I have tend to hop when I twitch them and not walk side to side.. I think they are Spro frogs. I haven't tried trimming the legs different lengths, will try that. But Hackney was trimming individual legs off of the skirt.. which was a serious fine tune. I've never seen a frog walk back and forth like he was fishing it.

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#12790730 - 06/13/18 01:54 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: InTheClear]
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Originally Posted By: InTheClear



The head shape on that one he is holding sure doesn't look like the "Hack Attack Select" like he said.


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#12790784 - 06/13/18 02:42 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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Most work good right out of the box no matter the brand... but those subtle tweeks to the bait can make all the difference in the world, especially on lakes where the fish see a ton of frogs with basically the same action.
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#12791251 - 06/13/18 09:20 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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The frog on his buzz bait isn't what I was referring too.. it was a stand alone frog he was fishing. When the Bassmaster Live archive pops up, check it out.

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#12791259 - 06/13/18 09:27 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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He was throwing a sexy frog supposedly and the hack attack buzz frog. Looked more like a boogerman to me

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#12791477 - 06/14/18 06:34 AM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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Strike King makes 2 different buzzbaits as a part of the Hack Attack line at Academy - the bait pictured sure looks like the skirted bait they sell - it has the same head as others mentioned as looks different than the model they sell that comes with the 3 toads. He just removed the skirt from that buzzer and added a toad...


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#12791519 - 06/14/18 07:31 AM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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If you have to trim the legs on a frog to get it to walk, you aren’t working it right. Short pops of slack line should make any decent frog walk, legs trimmed or not.
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#12792122 - 06/14/18 02:54 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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This is the frog I was referring to.. one side trimmed shorter, but also he removed individual strands on the long side to make it walk side to side.

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#12792173 - 06/14/18 03:40 PM Re: Hackney trimming a frog [Re: Bill Durham]
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As mentioned before, that's a kvd sexy frog

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