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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: Bobby Milam]
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06/11/18 03:09 PM
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GIG'EM AGGIES
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I believe that HE believes it was the skeg. If the skeg gives that much steering control to the boat, wouldn't you notice that you have lost some steering control earlier? It happened, according to him, when he hit the wake of a boat that he was trying to pass. Wouldn't it be logical that his speed and angle of approach to the wake probably have more to do with the front of the boat dipping and losing control? Once the front of the boat drops, you are no longer running on pad and the skeg should come into less of play at that point and the drag from the boat along with the wake from the boat will change your course angle. You make an excellent point Bobby and I agree that hitting that wake at a certain angle would cause bow hook but what if the missing skeg wouldn't let him make a last minute adjustment to the wake. My biggest objection is none of us on here were there and yet some on here won't give the man the benefit of the doubt of his explanation and basically are calling him a liar. Some because they flat don't like him for whatever reason and prefer to blame him instead of the skeg despite some of the post that do acknowledge the importance of the skeg in steering. Alton doesn't have a history of boating accidents that I'm aware of and one Marshall that has ridden with him vouched for his safety and driving ability. I don't know the man well enough to call him a liar or believe he's a careless driver so unless we hear from a witness who saw what happened I will take his word for what happened. You can certainly have an opinion but that's a far cry from the truth.
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: GIG'EM AGGIES]
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06/11/18 03:11 PM
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RO519
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I believe that HE believes it was the skeg. If the skeg gives that much steering control to the boat, wouldn't you notice that you have lost some steering control earlier? It happened, according to him, when he hit the wake of a boat that he was trying to pass. Wouldn't it be logical that his speed and angle of approach to the wake probably have more to do with the front of the boat dipping and losing control? Once the front of the boat drops, you are no longer running on pad and the skeg should come into less of play at that point and the drag from the boat along with the wake from the boat will change your course angle. You make an excellent point Bobby and I agree that hitting that wake at a certain angle would cause bow hook but what if the missing skeg wouldn't let him make a last minute adjustment to the wake. My biggest objection is none of us on here were there and yet some on here won't give the man the benefit of the doubt of his explanation and basically are calling him a liar. Some because they flat don't like him for whatever reason and prefer to blame him instead of the skeg despite some of the post that do acknowledge the importance of the skeg in steering. Alton doesn't have a history of boating accidents that I'm aware of and one Marshall that has ridden with him vouched for his safety and driving ability. I don't know the man well enough to call him a liar or believe he's a careless driver so unless we hear from a witness who saw what happened I will take his word for what happened. You can certainly have an opinion but that's a far cry from the truth. OK Alton...
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: k.l.white]
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06/11/18 03:15 PM
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Chris_K
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Damn, does ole Alton make YouTube videos or something? Popular dude I see...
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: fouzman]
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06/11/18 04:27 PM
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Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
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When I hit his wake, my nose dipped and the boat spun 90 degrees and went into the woods.
That's called a nose or bow hook. It was caused by hitting another boat's wake at the wrong angle and at too high a speed, which caused the bow of the boat to drop coming off the other boat's wake. BS on Alton's explanation. Yup just a cope out
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: RO519]
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06/11/18 04:27 PM
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Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
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I believe that HE believes it was the skeg. If the skeg gives that much steering control to the boat, wouldn't you notice that you have lost some steering control earlier? It happened, according to him, when he hit the wake of a boat that he was trying to pass. Wouldn't it be logical that his speed and angle of approach to the wake probably have more to do with the front of the boat dipping and losing control? Once the front of the boat drops, you are no longer running on pad and the skeg should come into less of play at that point and the drag from the boat along with the wake from the boat will change your course angle. You make an excellent point Bobby and I agree that hitting that wake at a certain angle would cause bow hook but what if the missing skeg wouldn't let him make a last minute adjustment to the wake. My biggest objection is none of us on here were there and yet some on here won't give the man the benefit of the doubt of his explanation and basically are calling him a liar. Some because they flat don't like him for whatever reason and prefer to blame him instead of the skeg despite some of the post that do acknowledge the importance of the skeg in steering. Alton doesn't have a history of boating accidents that I'm aware of and one Marshall that has ridden with him vouched for his safety and driving ability. I don't know the man well enough to call him a liar or believe he's a careless driver so unless we hear from a witness who saw what happened I will take his word for what happened. You can certainly have an opinion but that's a far cry from the truth. OK Alton... Lol
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
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06/11/18 05:13 PM
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Mike Keenan
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I think its been mentioned once or twice already, Im glad Alton and his Marshall are both ok.... I bet Alton has more seat time then most of us, he can pilot that Skeeter better than any of us Im sure.
R.I.P. Mike "pappy" "broken rod" Green born 07-16-62 on to better fishing 06-10-08. www.basscat.com
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: k.l.white]
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06/11/18 05:24 PM
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Ted Martin
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I've always heard those skeeters could get up in the real skinny stuff, but dang...
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: Ted Martin]
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06/11/18 05:39 PM
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TinRangerJim
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I've always heard those skeeters could get up in the real skinny stuff, but dang... "Hey, I know a short-cut..."
"Rip Some Lips" Nevadan by birth, Texan by choice Retired USAF, 1966-1989 Jim C.
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: k.l.white]
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06/11/18 05:59 PM
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sprigsss
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No one called the man a liar.
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: k.l.white]
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06/11/18 06:11 PM
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Bass Junkie
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When I hit something hard (only a couple of times when I was idling and hit the lake bottom) I pull up the motor to inspect for damage.
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: k.l.white]
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06/11/18 06:23 PM
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Douglas J
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What happened to Alton Jones? Karma perhaps??
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: Mike Keenan]
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06/11/18 06:59 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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I think its been mentioned once or twice already, Im glad Alton and his Marshall are both ok.... I bet Alton has more seat time then most of us, he can pilot that Skeeter better than any of us Im sure.
He might have more seat time, but I have never beached my boat past the Hamby......MUCH LESS THE SKEG! Lol
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: k.l.white]
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06/11/18 07:00 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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Those big ol Garmins were in his way.....he couldn't see.
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: k.l.white]
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06/11/18 07:04 PM
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Fish2222
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Too fast....too close to another boat.... let's not complicate it.
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Re: What happened to Alton?
[Re: sprigsss]
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06/11/18 07:08 PM
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GIG'EM AGGIES
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No one called the man a liar. You did more than once. " ive driven and ridden in enough boats without a skeg to know it had nothing to do with it."
Last edited by GIG'EM AGGIES; 06/11/18 07:08 PM.
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed. Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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