Are you trolling for these or casting crankbaits to them? What crainkbaits are those if you don’t mind sharing?
Trolling Crankbaits and then drifting and jigging with a slab to catch them. The bigger/deeper the better. You will still catch a few little ones but with the bigger baits not so much. I never use shad although many at our lake do. They just are too stinky and too much trouble for me.
Bill Norman DD22
Bill Dance mirror side Bommer Fat Shad 3"
Reef Runner 800