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#12774725 - 05/30/18 07:36 PM Kids and life jackets in the boat.
grout-scout Offline
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I didn’t want to keep taking the 14lb bass off topic. Fouzman posted a link from TPWD that said “kids under 13 must wear lifejackets on boats less than 26’ in length while UNDERWAY”. Is UNDERWAY defind in the TPWD manual clearly anywheres? My daughter burns up and won’t go on the boat. From what I understand and have heard of tickets being given, no matter what, even when anchored kids must wear lifejackets. Hoping to get the real answer on this.

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#12774733 - 05/30/18 07:41 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: grout-scout]
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Required when underway. TPWD defines underway as anytime not anchored, beached, or tied to dock.


Edited by sprigsss (05/30/18 07:43 PM)

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#12774739 - 05/30/18 07:45 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: grout-scout]
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Like said above floating around and TM is underway as well.

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#12774749 - 05/30/18 07:51 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: grout-scout]
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Tied off to trees would be considered anchored, right? I know it’s a stupid question, but I recall a thread here a year or 2 ago where a guy got a ticket when he son took off a lifejacket to take a leak/wizz.

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#12774751 - 05/30/18 07:53 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: grout-scout]
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I had a game warden tell me my kids needed to wear ot at all time or I would get a ticket. SO he did. I would let him go swim off the back of the boat for about 5 minutes then back to fishing.
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#12774817 - 05/30/18 08:35 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: grout-scout]
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The law is crystal clear.
Under 13 must wear at all times unless anchored, docked, or tied off.
If you get a ticket under those circumstances....well, you're part of the problem.


Edited by Fish2222 (05/30/18 08:36 PM)
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#12774819 - 05/30/18 08:37 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: grout-scout]
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Laws stipulate when and wear they are required. As a parent, it should not be a decision based on legality. A parent should just have them wearing them whenever NEAR OR ON the water. Period. A $20 life jacket or a $10,000 funeral and a life of misery and missed memories? Easy decision.
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#12774855 - 05/30/18 09:01 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: SteezMacQueen]
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Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Laws stipulate when and wear they are required. As a parent, it should not be a decision based on legality. A parent should just have them wearing them whenever NEAR OR ON the water. Period. A $20 life jacket or a $10,000 funeral and a life of misery and missed memories? Easy decision.


Agreed, I don’t understand why this would even be an issue. My daughter is not allowed on the dock without her life jacket on and it NEVER comes off in the boat. I’ve pulled a lifeless child from a pool before and I promise you that’s not something you ever want to experience.

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#12774857 - 05/30/18 09:03 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: SteezMacQueen]
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Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Laws stipulate when and wear they are required. As a parent, it should not be a decision based on legality. A parent should just have them wearing them whenever NEAR OR ON the water. Period. A $20 life jacket or a $10,000 funeral and a life of misery and missed memories? Easy decision.



Yeah not so much, being in 4’ of water can be hard to drown in when your kid is almost 5’ tall. Yeah, deeper water makes sense. How many kids do you have? It’s not a cost issue, it’s a kid won’t go to the lake and fish because they get too hot when sitting still while fishing. (Tied to a tree)

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#12774861 - 05/30/18 09:06 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: Fish2222]
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Originally Posted By: Fish2222
The law is crystal clear.
Under 13 must wear at all times unless anchored, docked, or tied off.
If you get a ticket under those circumstances....well, you're part of the problem.



No, the law is not defined crystal clearly. Ever read the laws on the navigation led lights?

Is tied to a tree defined as anchored, I can still float in a semi circle when tied up.

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#12774863 - 05/30/18 09:10 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: grout-scout]
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Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Laws stipulate when and wear they are required. As a parent, it should not be a decision based on legality. A parent should just have them wearing them whenever NEAR OR ON the water. Period. A $20 life jacket or a $10,000 funeral and a life of misery and missed memories? Easy decision.



Yeah not so much, being in 4’ of water can be hard to drown in when your kid is almost 5’ y’all. Yeah, deeper water makes sense. How many kids do you have?


I have two. And a full grown adult can drown in 2" water. I watched a guy drowning on Mockingbird Lane in Dallas one night. Pouring rain...he was riding a 10sp bike and the water was over the curb. He hit the curb, fell, hit his head on the curb, and proceeded to drown. I saved his life. It was freakish and scary.

....and yeah.....a life jacket wouldn't have helped. But, why tempt fate with kids and lakes, creeks, swimming pools, etc.

....as I've stated earlier in another thread.....your decision to lead your children is yours. I have no say so. I'm only stating personal opinions and facts. Choices. It's all it is. They all have consequences. Some great, some not so great.
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#12774865 - 05/30/18 09:11 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: grout-scout]
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Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Laws stipulate when and wear they are required. As a parent, it should not be a decision based on legality. A parent should just have them wearing them whenever NEAR OR ON the water. Period. A $20 life jacket or a $10,000 funeral and a life of misery and missed memories? Easy decision.



Yeah not so much, being in 4’ of water can be hard to drown in when your kid is almost 5’ tall. Yeah, deeper water makes sense. How many kids do you have? It’s not a cost issue, it’s a kid won’t go to the lake and fish because they get too hot when sitting still while fishing. (Tied to a tree)


How old is your kid? You can get jackets that had mesh venting . Much cooler. My daughter is about to turn 14. When anchored I allow her to take it off. If she swims she has to wear one


Edited by BrandoA (05/30/18 09:13 PM)

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#12774872 - 05/30/18 09:13 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: SteezMacQueen]
grout-scout Offline
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Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Laws stipulate when and wear they are required. As a parent, it should not be a decision based on legality. A parent should just have them wearing them whenever NEAR OR ON the water. Period. A $20 life jacket or a $10,000 funeral and a life of misery and missed memories? Easy decision.



Yeah not so much, being in 4’ of water can be hard to drown in when your kid is almost 5’ y’all. Yeah, deeper water makes sense. How many kids do you have?


I have two. And a full grown adult can drown in 2" water. I watched a guy drowning on Mockingbird Lane in Dallas one night. Pouring rain...he was riding a 10sp bike and the water was over the curb. He hit the curb, fell, hit his head on the curb, and proceeded to drown. I saved his life. It was freakish and scary.

....and yeah.....a life jacket wouldn't have helped. But, why tempt fate with kids and lakes, creeks, swimming pools, etc.

....as I've stated earlier in another thread.....your decision to lead your children is yours. I have no say so. I'm only stating personal opinions and facts. Choices. It's all it is. They all have consequences. Some great, some not so great.



Come on now, your kids wore life jackets in the pool?

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#12774873 - 05/30/18 09:14 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: BrandoA]
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Originally Posted By: BrandoA
Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Laws stipulate when and wear they are required. As a parent, it should not be a decision based on legality. A parent should just have them wearing them whenever NEAR OR ON the water. Period. A $20 life jacket or a $10,000 funeral and a life of misery and missed memories? Easy decision.



Yeah not so much, being in 4’ of water can be hard to drown in when your kid is almost 5’ tall. Yeah, deeper water makes sense. How many kids do you have? It’s not a cost issue, it’s a kid won’t go to the lake and fish because they get too hot when sitting still while fishing. (Tied to a tree)


How old is your kid?


10 years old. We did buy the most ventilated one that we could find, actually own 3 of them for her due to trying to find the coolest one possible. She solved the problem herself though, because she just won’t go when it’s hot. hammer

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#12774882 - 05/30/18 09:20 PM Re: Kids and life jackets in the boat. [Re: grout-scout]
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I have 5 kids... CAges 15 ( twins) to 4. They all wear life jackets at the lake when on the boat. My son can swim real good. He wears it on the boat. NOw that he is 15 he can wear it when the big motor is going. If you don't think a 5 foot tall person can drown on 4 inches of water then you need to go to the ER during the summer. My wife is a nurse and have many things like this. Now is it likely to happen. Probably not but why chance it. Being a minister I have been to way to many funerals. I am not taking a chance....
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