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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: jbassman]
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05/28/18 04:43 PM
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jbassman
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I was just committing on the Nitro, how much they have changed over the years, again, a good looking well laid out boat. Was not expecting all of the Phoenix pro’s to bash Nitro. But IMO the new Nitro is a better laid out boat then the Phoenix.
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: jbassman]
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05/28/18 04:46 PM
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jbassman
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Mark, since this is your first bass boat, do you need anyone to show you how to load it?
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: jbassman]
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05/28/18 04:51 PM
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triton20x
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I think Mark definitely needs help with boat driving and trailer loading. Mark what is this your 5th boat? LOL.
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: triton20x]
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05/28/18 04:57 PM
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Mark Perry
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I think Mark definitely needs help with boat driving and trailer loading. Mark what is this your 5th boat? LOL.
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: jbassman]
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05/28/18 05:59 PM
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Douglas J
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Rangers and Nitros are interchangeable now
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: Jeff From Iowa]
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05/28/18 06:05 PM
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Just browsing our Boats for Sale section here I came across a loaded 2017 Z21 that is almost $15,000 cheaper than a loaded 2017 Phoenix 920. A 2017 Phoenix 921 is almost $20,000 more than the Z21. Of course you found used nitro cheaper. They don’t hold their value at all. People think they are 45k for a z21 because that’s the case with the bare ones sitting in bass pro and cabelas. No way they lost $15,000-20,000 more than another brand tbat fast in relatoon to initual sales price. Are you new to bass boats? Yes way. Everyone has always known nitro don’t hold value. And they aren’t increasing their price yearly because they are too busy...... Phoenix raised their price 5000 for 18 models 2000 for 19 models. So that’s 7000 basically a 2017 Phoenix is not going to depreciate at this time. If you bought a new 17 right your depreciation is very very low right now. Yes Mark is a pure rookie when it comes to bass boats
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: WAWI]
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05/28/18 06:19 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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Ranger jelly post ^^^^^^^ We if you notice it's never ranger owners engaged in these peeing matches. It's always these people with these off brands. I wish every ranger owner fished tourneys I fish......'cause us "off brand" Skeeter owners sure like collecting money from you deep pocket ranger owners. You guys are so "giving".
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: jbassman]
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05/28/18 08:45 PM
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If I get close to having the $$$$ to buy a new Nitro Z21 I'm just gonna save a while longer and buy a Phoenix. Why you ask ? Two reasons,1- Yamaha and 2-Fun n Sun. If I want to make some rigging changes I want someone who knows what they're doing working on my boat. BPS don't.
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed. Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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05/28/18 08:46 PM
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Okie Poke
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Ranger jelly post ^^^^^^^ We if you notice it's never ranger owners engaged in these peeing matches. It's always these people with these off brands. I wish every ranger owner fished tourneys I fish......'cause us "off brand" Skeeter owners sure like collecting money from you deep pocket ranger owners. You guys are so "giving". Steez.....you oughta be out cashin' checks today. How come you ain't? I bet your tourney ended at noon....
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: Jeff From Iowa]
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05/29/18 01:43 AM
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Tony_Wornick
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Agree laid out well... size is awesome... pricing not so great, by the time you add a cover, dual auto bilge, livewell insulation, oxygenators, ultrex, 250 mercury, upgrade to adjustable seat post, 12 jack plate, trim on wheel, ratchet tie downs your already up to 55,000 with zero helix etc....
Thats why I ended up buying a phoenix
A Z21 doesn't come with a 250 Merc?? Dude you're looking for reasons
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: Tony_Wornick]
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05/29/18 01:56 AM
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SteezMacQueen
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Agree laid out well... size is awesome... pricing not so great, by the time you add a cover, dual auto bilge, livewell insulation, oxygenators, ultrex, 250 mercury, upgrade to adjustable seat post, 12 jack plate, trim on wheel, ratchet tie downs your already up to 55,000 with zero helix etc....
Thats why I ended up buying a phoenix
A Z21 doesn't come with a 250 Merc?? Dude you're looking for reasons Not standard. It is an extra cost option. Base price is a 225 merc. You can even option down to a 200 to save a buck. You, and all of us, know that Nitro NEVER comes standard with max HP for their hulls.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: jbassman]
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05/29/18 02:18 AM
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mudd
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I just want a Nitro cause KVD will sign it for me
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: mudd]
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05/29/18 02:31 AM
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SteezMacQueen
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I just want a Nitro cause KVD will sign it for me I thought the same thing about the KVD Bobbie head. He only offered to buy it back so it would never be seen. Lol.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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05/29/18 02:33 AM
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mudd
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I just want a Nitro cause KVD will sign it for me I thought the same thing about the KVD Bobbie head. He only offered to buy it back so it would never be seen. Lol. That’s even better. Lol
93 Ranger 482vs 95 Bullet 20cc
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Re: Z21 Nitro
[Re: jbassman]
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05/29/18 03:20 AM
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grout-scout
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I’d sure like to have a demo Nitro for a month to see how they are, the look pretty nice and have a great layout.
All the ones on display at our BassPro are always max hp, I have never seen one there that was being sold with less than max hp.
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