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Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: fouzman] #12768931 05/25/18 04:26 AM
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thats called class... I agree with him 100 percent.

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Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: FlatBack4] #12768995 05/25/18 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: FlatBack4
Anglers? Sportsmen? I don't think so.

What sportsman avoids hates competition?

Typical redneck, nouveau primadonnas. They've heard all their lives that it's "rude" to fish in another man's spot. Paleeez!

If you can't run with the big dogs....


How long have you been following fishing? Most of your "big dogs" on ledges learned from Haynes either because he taught them directly or they followed him around like everyone else does any time he launches on a TVA lake. You don't have to like him or the decision, but what a silly statement about the best ledge fisherman on either tour.

Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: fouzman] #12768997 05/25/18 10:34 AM
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I bet his family is plenty proud of him, I know I am. Integrity, ethics and honesty will make me a fan no matter what sport you're in. Would I have done something different ? Maybe, maybe not but I feel we all have been in a situation where the conflict just wasn't worth the hassle or the hassle just wasn't worth the conflict. Kinda like being cut off on the highway. Sometimes you just let it go.


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Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: fouzman] #12769021 05/25/18 11:28 AM
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....There are 3 ways to deal with any issue:
1.) stay and confront it
2.) stay and don't confront it
3.) don't stay -- leave
.... the action that one chooses is based on their upbringing and their mental state at that time
.... the results of those actions are what you live with in the immediate and in the future
.... your decision not only affects you, but the world around you
How many times do we say; if I only knew, wish I could go back and have a mulligan / do over or maybe the other path was better

whether he shouldn't have quit the tournament or not I truly believe for himself and "his world" he made the right choice. He might regret not to continue fishing --- but he certainly doesn't have to ponder the other fork in the road, he chose the right one ..... IMHO.

Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: Barrett] #12769042 05/25/18 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By: Barrett
thats called class... I agree with him 100 percent.


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Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: FlatBack4] #12769065 05/25/18 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: FlatBack4
Anglers? Sportsmen? I don't think so.

What sportsman avoids hates competition?

Typical redneck, nouveau primadonnas. They've heard all their lives that it's "rude" to fish in another man's spot. Paleeez!

If you can't run with the big dogs....


You seem to be the exact type he is making a stand against. Good luck with that.

Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: Barrett] #12769087 05/25/18 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: Barrett
thats called class... I agree with him 100 percent.


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Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: fouzman] #12769097 05/25/18 12:49 PM
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While I agree with Randy that there seems to be a deterioration within bass fishing while the flat-bill tubers generation begins to come about and start to take a stronger hold on our sport (God please help us all!!). I have to ask, Is this reply aimed at Jason? From everything I heard they are friends, maybe not close, but friends, and Jason is a hand on TVA lakes, does his own work and doesn't do the bent-pole pattern like flat-bill tubers do. I applaud Randy for making these statements, but he still seems to "point the finger" at Jason to say you were wrong. I don't see it that way. I think Jason had a right to that water and the water could have been shared by both anglers and the spirit of competition could have been honored. Just MHO, it's probably wrong, but how I feel. Jason seemed to handle the situation with class and grace. Randy did not. Again, just MHO, that a quarter doesn't even get you a cup of coffee now days.


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Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: fouzman] #12769131 05/25/18 01:16 PM
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Good on Mr Haynes. Well thought out and classy

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Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: fouzman] #12769167 05/25/18 01:44 PM
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Certainly no snowflake, nothing but respect for that man.

A snowflake would have stayed, complained, and tried to get the other guy to leave.

Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: fouzman] #12769200 05/25/18 02:05 PM
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"Hey, thanks for this - this showed my kid...." Nothing about not quitting and fighting through adversity? What a load BS.

Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: fouzman] #12769211 05/25/18 02:10 PM
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He quit. Plain and simple. I was always taught not to. If he had just left the spot and went elsewhere, while leading...., he may have still won the thing.

Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: aggieangler03] #12769227 05/25/18 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: aggieangler03
He quit. Plain and simple. I was always taught not to. If he had just left the spot and went elsewhere, while leading...., he may have still won the thing.


Which is exactly what he said...


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Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: Bissett] #12769243 05/25/18 02:37 PM
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So Haynes pulled up to the spot AFTER Lambert, Lambert told Haynes to go ahead up pull up beside him and fish there, then Haynes threw a fit about it and quit?? loco


You forgot to add the full situation. Lambert fished it on day 1. Haynes on day 2. Neither knew the other had fished it previously. Day 3, Haynes leading the tournament. Lambert arrived on it mere seconds before Haynes(Boats 1 &2 at takeoff, Lambert boat just a little faster,both Rangers, but that's a joke in itself as far as "fast & ,faster boats". At this point, Haynes was relying on the LONG STANDING GENTLEMENS AGREEMENT, that has always been the etiquette followed at top level ranks for years. Leader gets the spot. Lambert didn't do that, As in Jones not honoring leader on the other tournament , therefore sending the message that etiquette & honor of longstanding behavior is no more, and I like Alton too. But that STILL shocked me.Haynes was trying to make a point. That money & attitude is more important now, even at the Top level. Yes its been done more & more lately, so yes, traditions don't matter anymore. He made a decision to prove the point. And he did!! Its just missed by those that agree with that type behavior. Haynes COULD have fished elsewhere & caught fish. So could Lambert. They're both hammers on that lake. I myself, agree with Haynes point. Comments of "Im teaching my kid to hang tough & stay in there are forgetting (in my opinion) to ALSO teach them to HONOR long standing traditions that the sport was built on. If you fail to teach honoring customary etiquette,you're doing a great disservice to yourself, your child, & the sport. Just my opinion. These ALL started as traditions. Professional Driver Drag racing in NHRA on tour. Does leader get Lane choice ? Yes. Tradition became rule. Professional Rodeo Cowboy on tour.Does leader get to draw his stock first? Yes. Tradition. Part of a long standing tradition, that became rule. Times change,rules should also, to accommodate the sport.but, should tradition be thrown out in making a new rule? Individual opinion varies & looks like tradition is losing.. Even at top levels.

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Re: Balog on the Lambert/Haynes Kentucky Lake Situation [Re: SoCal Tom] #12769293 05/25/18 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: aggieangler03
He quit. Plain and simple. I was always taught not to. If he had just left the spot and went elsewhere, while leading...., he may have still won the thing.


Which is exactly what he said...


And Lambert could have done the same AND also honored the long standing etiquette of Leader gets first choice. Lambert may ALSO have found enough to win.


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