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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/21/18 06:47 PM
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I'm going to go ahead and state the obvious........FLW must not have a rule on how close you can fish to one another. LOL!! Wonder how that would have played out had there not been cameras on them.
I have fished around friends that were in different boats before but NEVER have we played bumper boats. they don't, nor should they
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/21/18 07:03 PM
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It is [censored] that someone races the tournament leader to his spot especially when you didnt fish it the day before. Lambert is way wrong. That's the new way of doing things. It's been that way for many,many years
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/21/18 07:47 PM
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It is [censored] that someone races the tournament leader to his spot especially when you didnt fish it the day before. Lambert is way wrong. That's the new way of doing things. yep..... Welcome to tournament fishing! Sounds like the new way is to rush to judgment without reading or knowing the facts. Says Lambert had fished that spot on day 1. Some of y'all have had some bad experiences fishing tournaments, I have too, but have had far more good experiences.
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/21/18 08:04 PM
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I think everyone is looking at this way wrong. Both Lambert and Haynes are hammers on Kentucky, obviously. Both are fantastic at fishing offshore and I'm sure both of them have known about that particular spot/school of fish for awhile. Haynes didn't know Lambert fished it on Day 1, as he had already caught what he needed and left. Haynes pulls up and boxes 26 lbs the first day after Lambert fishes it. Day two, boat orders are reversed. Haynes starts there and stays all day, probably knowing what lived there and protecting it for day three. Understandably so, assuming people would give him space as the leader and still not knowing Lambert fished there on Day 1. Unfortunately in this situation, both anglers have a right to fish the spot since Lambert fished it the morning of Day 1 and was in second (so at that point in time its a boat race). 98% of the time, this doesn't happen. It was just an unfortunate situation and I think Haynes was more tired of the situation and the way offshore fishing has evolved in general more than anything. I wouldn't have packed up my rods and went home like he did... but I see his point. I don't think he was aggravated with Lambert as much as the situation and I'm fairly certain it probably happens to that guy constantly. Not many offshore guys like to fish 5 ft away from another person, especially ones that have spent as much time graphing as those two have.
Both are good guys and hellacious fisherman. Both handled it about as well as they could have (aside from Randy just putting his boat on the trailer), given the circumstances.
Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/21/18 09:38 PM
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With all due respect Jaret, I think you're missing the point. Randy got there 2nd. He lost. He is the guy that should have said "you got here first Jason, my bad. I lose out. Mind if I fish it with you?"..... or go fish another spot. Lambert was totally within his rights to do what he did and seemed to handle it pretty well and sounded like he would have been fine with Haynes fishing it with him. Haynes did not handle it well and seems to struggle with change. Seems pretty cut and dry to me. I think the thought was probably he was leading and the rest should yield to that if they knew that was his water. I think there was a time that ettiquite dictated that. Haynes DID mention this etiquette that has been honored in the past. He ALSO stated he had a business to run & a family at home he wanted to spend more time with. He ALSO stated he had no ill will towards Lambert. Seems to me he just made a decision to end it to do what he WANTS to do. I don't think he was being a crybaby. The man has a right to make a decision & he stuck to his belief. My opinion is similar. The old etiquette of yielding to the tournament "leader" has now went away. Its not a crybaby thing, & if a man decides the money is the priority over long time traditions has become the normal, then maybe it IS time to bow out. He did. The crybaby accusations came from other people's opinions. about the situation. Everyone KNOW about opinions. Everyone's got one.LOL
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/21/18 10:40 PM
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With all due respect Jaret, I think you're missing the point. Randy got there 2nd. He lost. He is the guy that should have said "you got here first Jason, my bad. I lose out. Mind if I fish it with you?"..... or go fish another spot. Lambert was totally within his rights to do what he did and seemed to handle it pretty well and sounded like he would have been fine with Haynes fishing it with him. Haynes did not handle it well and seems to struggle with change. Seems pretty cut and dry to me. I think the thought was probably he was leading and the rest should yield to that if they knew that was his water. I think there was a time that ettiquite dictated that. Haynes DID mention this etiquette that has been honored in the past. He ALSO stated he had a business to run & a family at home he wanted to spend more time with. He ALSO stated he had no ill will towards Lambert. Seems to me he just made a decision to end it to do what he WANTS to do. I don't think he was being a crybaby. The man has a right to make a decision & he stuck to his belief. My opinion is similar. The old etiquette of yielding to the tournament "leader" has now went away. Its not a crybaby thing, & if a man decides the money is the priority over long time traditions has become the normal, then maybe it IS time to bow out. He did. The crybaby accusations came from other people's opinions. about the situation. Everyone KNOW about opinions. Everyone's got one.LOL This.
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/21/18 10:42 PM
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Cant believe this thread is still going. They already kissed and made up!
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/22/18 12:16 AM
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They just should have taken turns casting
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/22/18 12:16 AM
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If only he had been running a g2 E-tec,darn slow Merc's will get you beat every time.
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/22/18 01:48 AM
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I'm still trying to grasp this.
Lambert catches 24 off of it the first morning. Haynes catches 26 off of it in the afternoon. Haynes gets a better boat number on day 2 and sits on it all day. Lambert never gets a chance to fish it because of this.
So Lambert no longer has any rights to fish the spot because he didn't fish it on day 2 and because he was 2lbs back and this is considered potlicking, hole jumping, bent rod pattern?
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/22/18 02:11 AM
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I'm still trying to grasp this.
Lambert catches 24 off of it the first morning. Haynes catches 26 off of it in the afternoon. Haynes gets a better boat number on day 2 and sits on it all day. Lambert never gets a chance to fish it because of this.
So Lambert no longer has any rights to fish the spot because he didn't fish it on day 2 and because he was 2lbs back and this is considered potlicking, hole jumping, bent rod pattern? I have still yet to read where it states he caught 24 Pounds off of it first morning. Im not saying it doesnt exist and Ive read plenty that he fished it. Just havent seen where it says he caught 100 percent of his weight off of it. Also I think the leader should always get the water he fished the day before. So yes I think regardless lambert was in the wrong.
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/22/18 02:17 AM
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Plus this has nothing to do with the spot. It's the way the tour is headed with fishing in general. Nobody would even know what ledge fishing on k lake would be without Haynes. He just got tired of the grind giving up spots for the sake of trying to win all these years. Think about about how many potlickers have followed, fished with him, or got waypoints to his stuff over the years. I'm shocked he made it this long. What happened this weekend was a long time coming and I'm betting it's not all about fishing. Family and work play a big role in his life.
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/22/18 02:24 AM
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So from what I understand this is Haynes home lake and he has no other backup spots to fish? Yet somehow Lambert was able to catch a good sack on day 2 despite Haynes guarding the main spot all day. If the two are friends maybe the more mature thing to do would be to suggest to Lambert that he can have the spot all morning and Haynes hit it in the afternoon. Maybe Lambert would have agreed or maybe he would have told Haynes to go to [censored]. The way things reportedly went down makes Haynes look like a hothead. Just a shame things went down that way without even discussing other options, could have served as a teaching moment for others in the same situation. But hey, it's his money and his reputation.
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/22/18 02:27 AM
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They just should have taken turns casting Maybe got out the boat fenders and tied up to each other's boat.
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Re: Randy Haynes FLW
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05/22/18 02:47 AM
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I don't know much about this situation but the days of a secret ledge disappeared with mapping software. Those spots he cultivated over the years could be picked apart in a few days by good deep water fisherman.
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