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 Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 01:31 AM
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And before you answer tell the class how many of these high school students that are still in school mind you, would future military service have stopped, not a gd one
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 01:32 AM
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Parents may or may not be held responsible in a court of law but you can bet some blood sucking lawyers will drag it on until their broke and homeless.
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 01:37 AM
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He obviously had no Parents that took an interest in him. Kid was lost ... Angry. Didn't have the guts to off himself. Now the state will. Sooner the better. Parents too.They should be sterilized.
Last edited by fish4bass; 05/19/18 01:41 AM.
And I know who "Jeff" is.
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 01:44 AM
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I'm not high. Nor do I see it as a cure. I see it as a way to teach discipline. Of course there will be exemptions for religious,health,mental and many other reasons. Just looking at possibilities to help correct some of the problems faced by our country.
I see YMMV. I'm disappointed that you of all people missed the point I was trying to make.
JSMH
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 01:55 AM
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I'm not high. Nor do I see it as a cure. I see it as a way to teach discipline. Of course there will be exemptions for religious,health,mental and many other reasons. Just looking at possibilities to help correct some of the problems faced by our country.
I see YMMV. I'm disappointed that you of all people missed the point I was trying to make.
JSMH The military has had plenty of their own f ups. The simple answer is nobody had an answer. Something has gone wrong. We didn't have compulsory military service before and didn't have this, why would it change it. This is a mental illness problem and a new way of acting on it. I don't think you can spank it out, ground it out, military it out. I'm around lots of young people, I don't find them that bad. I think most are not any different than I was way back when. We are talking a few nut jobs. A kid in my grade walked into a class and stuck a knife in a teachers back and went to the mall to play video games. That was in the 80s, u guess today he might have shot the place up. Crazy has been around, will be aroumd, and will find new ways to act out. Talking about politics, military service, discipline etc is just riding a high horse.
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 02:03 AM
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I'm not high. Nor do I see it as a cure. I see it as a way to teach discipline. Of course there will be exemptions for religious,health,mental and many other reasons. Just looking at possibilities to help correct some of the problems faced by our country.
I see YMMV. I'm disappointed that you of all people missed the point I was trying to make.
JSMH The military has had plenty of their own f ups. The simple answer is nobody had an answer. Something has gone wrong. We didn't have compulsory military service before and didn't have this, why would it change it. This is a mental illness problem and a new way of acting on it. I don't think you can spank it out, ground it out, military it out. I'm around lots of young people, I don't find them that bad. I think most are not any different than I was way back when. We are talking a few nut jobs. A kid in my grade walked into a class and stuck a knife in a teachers back and went to the mall to play video games. That was in the 80s, u guess today he might have shot the place up. Crazy has been around, will be aroumd, and will find new ways to act out. Talking about politics, military service, discipline etc is just riding a high horse. No not riding a high horse just putting forth an opinion. Since my opinion is so repugnant to you,what is your suggestion to help.After all if you aren't part of the solution then...
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 02:08 AM
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 02:11 AM
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There have been bullies as long as there have been a group of kids together. Every generation has had them
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 02:35 AM
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I'm not high. Nor do I see it as a cure. I see it as a way to teach discipline. Of course there will be exemptions for religious,health,mental and many other reasons. Just looking at possibilities to help correct some of the problems faced by our country.
I see YMMV. I'm disappointed that you of all people missed the point I was trying to make.
JSMH The military has had plenty of their own f ups. The simple answer is nobody had an answer. Something has gone wrong. We didn't have compulsory military service before and didn't have this, why would it change it. This is a mental illness problem and a new way of acting on it. I don't think you can spank it out, ground it out, military it out. I'm around lots of young people, I don't find them that bad. I think most are not any different than I was way back when. We are talking a few nut jobs. A kid in my grade walked into a class and stuck a knife in a teachers back and went to the mall to play video games. That was in the 80s, u guess today he might have shot the place up. Crazy has been around, will be aroumd, and will find new ways to act out. Talking about politics, military service, discipline etc is just riding a high horse. No not riding a high horse just putting forth an opinion. Since my opinion is so repugnant to you,what is your suggestion to help.After all if you aren't part of the solution then... I will say this, being alone, not fitting in, etc has become easier. They can escape to video games, the internet, etc. Lots of houses with both parents working and these kids if they don't find something to connect to that's positive they will connect to something negetive, I think you mix in a little mental illnes, alot of unsupervised time, some loneliness and a feeling of not fitting in and you can potentially get a disaster.
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 02:51 AM
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There have been bullies as long as there have been a group of kids together. Every generation has had them yes but of course but no hand held devices or a precedent set with fire arms
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 02:52 AM
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man
if i was C Collins in junior high
i would have killed the entire class
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 03:00 AM
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I'm not high. Nor do I see it as a cure. I see it as a way to teach discipline. Of course there will be exemptions for religious,health,mental and many other reasons. Just looking at possibilities to help correct some of the problems faced by our country.
I see YMMV. I'm disappointed that you of all people missed the point I was trying to make.
JSMH As you were a combat Marine, share with us your three worst experiences when in the the face of enemy fire, you were about to die Not for my sake, but others need to know this to understand your point
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 03:53 AM
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Vote out liberal politicians. We can still vote,so do it.
Cut out legal loop holes that protect criminals. There really are criminals that deserve what's coming to them.
Protect our constitution and enforce our existing laws the way they were meant to be enforced. Discipline ! Two of the factors that are blocking a solution are the NRA and the lickspittle politicians they pay for. Which legal loopholes are protecting criminals?
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 04:36 AM
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Re: Father of school shooter...legally responsible?
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05/19/18 01:23 PM
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Not sure what the solution is? Under no illusion that gun control will solve the problem, though I don't understand the love affair many have with their guns. Fortunately or maybe unfortunately, we also have the right to be a little bit crazy, not fit in and have erratic behavior until we do harm to someone. Seems like in all the cases of school shootings, everyone knew the kid was troubled but nothing was or possibly could be done. I think there is a strong possibility that arming the teachers will incentivize them more as they can see themselves going down in a blaze of glory.
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