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#12742687 - 05/04/18 12:51 AM Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas
e-tec Offline
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Registered: 02/07/18
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I was told today that I must have my trailer weight to register it. I have a NC title but it does not list the weight by itself. It has the GVWR and the load capacity. The clerk told me I have to have it weighed and show him the slip. It is a manufactured Stratos trailer with a label and a VIN. I tried to explain to him that the boat was on the trailer so getting the trailer weighed by itself is not going to be an easy task. He replied, "Rules are rules." Has anyone else had this issue on a manufactured trailer? Is there an easier way to do this?


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#12742830 - 05/04/18 07:49 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
ChuChu1 Offline
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I'm afraid you will have to get the empty weight. I never weighed my trailer, but I just looked at the registration papers and it does show an empty weight.
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#12742893 - 05/04/18 08:31 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
redchevy Offline
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More than likely just give them a number and it will satisfy them. if they need a weight slip I don't know then.

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#12742914 - 05/04/18 08:41 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
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I would just weigh it with the boat on it . That is the way it travels down the road ?
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#12742946 - 05/04/18 09:02 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: trlrman]
Todd™ Offline
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Originally Posted By: trlrman
I would just weigh it with the boat on it . That is the way it travels down the road ?

If they go by weight for the cost of registration that could make it expensive. A 7000# trailer is a heavy hauler and might be a lot to tag. I had a jet ski once and they made a mistake on the title and instead of showing it 7.6 feet long they put 76 feet long. When they told me it cost $450 to register I flipped and then they saw the mistake.
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#12742990 - 05/04/18 09:31 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
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his vin tag shows 7040 gvwr it is the same fee from 3500-6000 and from 6k-10k . it should run 55.00 for tag, 6.25% on sales tax , 10.00 road and bridge, 33.00 title fee .
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#12743283 - 05/04/18 12:51 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: trlrman]
Stump jumper Offline
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Originally Posted By: trlrman
I would just weigh it with the boat on it . That is the way it travels down the road ?
I weighed mine with the boat on it. When I got to the county office the clerk backed off the boat, motor, and gear. She started by asking how much the boat weighs. Just show the weight slip and right in the boat, motor and gear weight to subtract. My complaint was I asked the clerk twice if I needed to weigh it and she said no. I passed right by a weigh station on the way home the next day from fishing. It would have been nothing to pull in and weigh it. I get home unhook and go to town to register. Another clerk looked at the one that I talked to the previous day and says they need weight. I Rockwall county they will give you a checklist. On mine they only checked inspection. Inspection is required on all out of state transfers whether you will need an annual one or not. If they give you a checklist make sure you take it back. Not sure about other counties but Rockwall will ask for it. It really sucks that government workers have to cop an attitude but I guess it goes with the job. Also I am sure they deal with some real winners.
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#12743324 - 05/04/18 01:16 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
JonBoater Offline
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Registered: 03/28/02
Posts: 470
Loc: Too far from Saltwater
That sticker seems really strange to me. With all my trailers the GVWR - the weight capacity is the trailer weight. Yours calculates out way too heavy (3115lbs!) or it is one hell of a beefy boat trailer? noidea

It seems you will never get to the GVWR with the listed weight capacity. Potentially over paying taxes/fees. I must be missing something?
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#12743425 - 05/04/18 02:31 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
ChuChu1 Offline
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GVWR is the maximum legal weight of the trailer AND the load.
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#12743426 - 05/04/18 02:32 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: trlrman]
ChuChu1 Offline
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Loc: Gonzales, Tx
Originally Posted By: trlrman
his vin tag shows 7040 gvwr it is the same fee from 3500-6000 and from 6k-10k . it should run 55.00 for tag, 6.25% on sales tax , 10.00 road and bridge, 33.00 title fee .


What title?
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#12743466 - 05/04/18 03:11 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
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over 4500 gvwr requires title
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#12743472 - 05/04/18 03:14 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: ChuChu1]
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Originally Posted By: ChuChu1
GVWR is the maximum legal weight of the trailer AND the load.
this is correct
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#12746114 - 05/07/18 09:50 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
TXMako2201 Offline
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Registered: 10/26/16
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The actual weight doesn't matter. it's the weight rating. If the GVWR for the trailer is more than 4500 lbs, ie. 4501 or more, it has to be inspected and requires brakes. I went through this whole process because the surge brakes on my trailer were so badly corroded I just took them off. then the state tried to say it was required and i couldn't register it until it passed inspection. My GVWR is 4500 so it does not require the inspection.

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#12746341 - 05/07/18 12:38 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: TXMako2201]
Stump jumper Offline
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Originally Posted By: TXMako2201
The actual weight doesn't matter. it's the weight rating. If the GVWR for the trailer is more than 4500 lbs, ie. 4501 or more, it has to be inspected and requires brakes. I went through this whole process because the surge brakes on my trailer were so badly corroded I just took them off. then the state tried to say it was required and i couldn't register it until it passed inspection. My GVWR is 4500 so it does not require the inspection.
I think the weight rating for inspections has been increased to 7500. I only had to get mine inspected because it is required in order to register any trailer or vehicle transferring from out of state regardless of whether or not the origin state has inspections. All the dude did when had mine in inspected was look at the ligts to make sure they were all there and not broken. He then looked at the mfg. tag and recorded serial number and the weight ratings from it. Never checked brakes or even asked about them. I figured he would at least check the level of the brake fluid.
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#12752968 - 05/12/18 05:41 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: trlrman]
e-tec Offline
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Registered: 02/07/18
Posts: 13
Originally Posted By: trlrman
over 4500 gvwr requires title

I went to a different location yesterday hoping to get better results. Nope. According to the clerk I must have the trailer inspected too. She also stated that I must have the weight of the trailer alone without the boat recorded on the official weigh slip. So I am going to get the trailer inspected with the boat on it next. Then I will have to find/hire someone to watch the boat for me at a marina while I go get the trailer weighed. I hope getting the boat registered will be a little easier.

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#12753413 - 05/13/18 08:53 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
TLW Offline
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Loc: ft worth
they use tha same form as used for cars/trucks is where they get tha "empty" weight thing.. but if they would look at tha requirements for tha trailer registration is states gross weight.... bang

I've registered to many ta count boat trailers, both manufactured and home built, over tha last 40+ years and can't remember a time I had ta have "empty weight".. jus haven't done it in tha last 8 years or so!


Edited by TLW (05/13/18 09:12 AM)

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#12757769 - 05/16/18 12:27 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
Stump jumper Offline
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Registered: 04/19/04
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Loc: Rockwall
Originally Posted By: e-tec
Originally Posted By: trlrman
over 4500 gvwr requires title

I went to a different location yesterday hoping to get better results. Nope. According to the clerk I must have the trailer inspected too. She also stated that I must have the weight of the trailer alone without the boat recorded on the official weigh slip. So I am going to get the trailer inspected with the boat on it next. Then I will have to find/hire someone to watch the boat for me at a marina while I go get the trailer weighed. I hope getting the boat registered will be a little easier.
Fortunately not the case in Rockwall county. They should be able to subtract the known weights of boat, motor, and gear. Just being dicks.
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#12767545 - 05/24/18 01:43 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: Stump jumper]
e-tec Offline
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Registered: 02/07/18
Posts: 13
Originally Posted By: Stump jumper
Originally Posted By: e-tec
Originally Posted By: trlrman
over 4500 gvwr requires title

I went to a different location yesterday hoping to get better results. Nope. According to the clerk I must have the trailer inspected too. She also stated that I must have the weight of the trailer alone without the boat recorded on the official weigh slip. So I am going to get the trailer inspected with the boat on it next. Then I will have to find/hire someone to watch the boat for me at a marina while I go get the trailer weighed. I hope getting the boat registered will be a little easier.
Fortunately not the case in Rockwall county. They should be able to subtract the known weights of boat, motor, and gear. Just being dicks.


So, based on the label only, my trailer should weigh 810 lbs?

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#12772707 - 05/29/18 12:43 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
cwil Offline
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Registered: 03/17/09
Posts: 251
Loc: NRH, TX
I bought my boat in Arkansas in 2017. No inspection and no title required. It’s a tandem axle ezloader for a champion 206. Your trailer weight max load is at 3925, very close to mine. Should be about the same process, tags around $60 ish.

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#12772750 - 05/29/18 06:32 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
Patrnflyr Offline
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Registered: 07/30/17
Posts: 205
Loc: Lubbock, Texas
All I can think of is the movie Zootopia and the DMV sloth. That about sums it up.


Edited by Patrnflyr (05/29/18 06:38 AM)

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#12773102 - 05/29/18 12:29 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: cwil]
Stump jumper Offline
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Registered: 04/19/04
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Loc: Rockwall
Originally Posted By: cwil
I bought my boat in Arkansas in 2017. No inspection and no title required. It’s a tandem axle ezloader for a champion 206. Your trailer weight max load is at 3925, very close to mine. Should be about the same process, tags around $60 ish.
You got lucky then., In Rockwall county they require any over the road vehicle from out of state to be inspected in Texas
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#12776098 - 05/31/18 09:09 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
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Registered: 02/19/02
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Loc: Lake Fork
I had the same issue with my current boat. It was from Louisiana and to register it in TX, I had to go get a certified weight slip.
PITA...
But, I found a place a couple of blocks from work that has a very scale and had it weighed. The rest was simple after that.

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#12776246 - 06/01/18 01:20 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: Stump jumper]
e-tec Offline
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Registered: 02/07/18
Posts: 13
Originally Posted By: Stump jumper
Originally Posted By: cwil
I bought my boat in Arkansas in 2017. No inspection and no title required. It’s a tandem axle ezloader for a champion 206. Your trailer weight max load is at 3925, very close to mine. Should be about the same process, tags around $60 ish.
You got lucky then., In Rockwall county they require any over the road vehicle from out of state to be inspected in Texas



I can get it inspected with the boat on it no problem. It is getting the boat off the trailer to have the trailer weighed by itself. I don't have the resources to get that done.

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#12776675 - 06/01/18 11:48 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
Stump jumper Offline
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Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 8205
Loc: Rockwall
Originally Posted By: e-tec
Originally Posted By: Stump jumper
Originally Posted By: cwil
I bought my boat in Arkansas in 2017. No inspection and no title required. It’s a tandem axle ezloader for a champion 206. Your trailer weight max load is at 3925, very close to mine. Should be about the same process, tags around $60 ish.
You got lucky then., In Rockwall county they require any over the road vehicle from out of state to be inspected in Texas



I can get it inspected with the boat on it no problem. It is getting the boat off the trailer to have the trailer weighed by itself. I don't have the resources to get that done.
you do not have to go through all of that. The people you are dealing with are idiots. Just weigh the whole thing and be prepared to answer questions about weight of hull, motor, and gear
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#12776699 - 06/01/18 12:07 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
ChuChu1 Offline
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Loc: Gonzales, Tx
Find you a boat dealer that will lift your boat off the trailer so you can go weigh it. Just have boat dealer and weigh station lined up so it can be done quickly.
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#12779168 - 06/04/18 02:48 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: ChuChu1]
e-tec Offline
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Registered: 02/07/18
Posts: 13
Anyone know where a weigh station is near Carrollton, Texas?

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#12779240 - 06/04/18 07:11 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
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#12797943 - 06/19/18 02:06 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: ChuChu1]
Boomerbrewer Offline
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Registered: 02/13/18
Posts: 28
When I brought my boat from Oklahoma, I had to drop the boat in the water with a friend and haul the empty trailer to a certified scale. If you are near belton lake, there is a scale about 2 miles from the ramp at the feed store in town. A real pain but there was no way around it according to the clerk. I tried to give them the weight of the boat and motor but it did me no good.

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#12798759 - 06/20/18 04:17 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
e-tec Offline
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Registered: 02/07/18
Posts: 13
Thanks Boomer but that is about six hours round trip for me. I think I am going to wait until the weather cools. Too hot to ask the wife to watch the boat.

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#12799220 - 06/20/18 11:09 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
bronco71 Offline
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Registered: 02/05/06
Posts: 1545
Loc: Farmers Branch/Sulphur Bluff
give these guys a call....BIG D TRAVEL CENTER
N. Loop 12 & Union Bower
Irving, TX 75061
972-438-2874


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#12799298 - 06/20/18 12:03 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
Stump jumper Offline
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Loc: Rockwall
Originally Posted By: e-tec
Thanks Boomer but that is about six hours round trip for me. I think I am going to wait until the weather cools. Too hot to ask the wife to watch the boat.
Have you thought about dropping it in North Lake or Lake Lewisville early in the morning and hitting a truck stop with scales in Lewisville or Carrolton area?
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#12831222 - 07/17/18 09:02 AM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
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Just weigh it with boat on it then go to a DIFFRENT tax office to register it, some have sticks up their ___ and some are a little more willing to work with ya..

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#12855507 - 08/06/18 03:45 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
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Loc: hubbard
You say that the boat and motor still has to be registered in Texas. If you thought the trailer was a pain.... oh no
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#12891858 - 09/08/18 02:27 PM Re: Trailer Registration - Welcome to Texas [Re: e-tec]
e-tec Offline
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Registered: 02/07/18
Posts: 13
I finally got it registered! I thought I would try one last time after getting the trailer inspected even though it is not required. I still had to break down how I calculated the weight of the trailer. I thought I was going to get turned down again but at the last minute the agent had a change of heart. Thanks everyone for all the help!! Now, if I can just figure out where to put this toll tag on the trailer...…….

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