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Fluoridation line
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04/24/18 08:13 PM
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Rducky
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Does a body else hate flourocarbon line? I have tried every brand on the market and cannot find one that I like.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729112
04/24/18 08:18 PM
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fouzman
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Nope. Looks like auto correct got you on the title.
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729133
04/24/18 08:35 PM
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Barn
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I don't care for it either. I use it sparingly for leaders in certain situations. However, I prefer straight braid and/or mono if possible.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729135
04/24/18 08:36 PM
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Shallow Waters
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No, I love flourocarbon, but I am of the opinion that if you are trying to get cheap line just stick with Mono. I dont know what kind of floruro you have tried but I personally wouldnt go any lower than Seaguar Invizx or P-Line 100% Flouro dollar level.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729137
04/24/18 08:39 PM
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i-Fish
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Seaguar Invizx is the bees knees! I understand that much of fishing is personal preference but I dont see how you cant manage flourocarbon. I never have an issue with memory, line breaking, backlashes, none of that stuff.
If you can't find em wind em.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729205
04/24/18 09:28 PM
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M. Alexander
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Seaguar InvizX -- been using it for several years & doesn't give me any trouble. What do you not like about fluoro?
Mark
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729252
04/24/18 09:55 PM
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bigbass94
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99% of my fishing is done with fluorocarbon line. I actually enjoy using fluorocarbon.
"If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles." - Doug Larson
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729388
04/24/18 11:58 PM
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basshc
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: M. Alexander]
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04/25/18 12:36 AM
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SteezMacQueen
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Seaguar InvizX -- been using it for several years & doesn't give me any trouble. What do you not like about fluoro? Same here. Best there is for the money, no doubt.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729760
04/25/18 06:06 AM
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Farrside
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I love florocarbon line. P line and invizX. I do use line conditioner.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Farrside]
#12729802
04/25/18 11:19 AM
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senko9S
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some of yall need to learn how to spell it...
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729867
04/25/18 12:37 PM
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TinRangerJim
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I resisted using fluoro for a long time, got scared off by all the horror stories...poor knot strength, terrible line memory, brittle, etc...but I also kept hearing everyone say how great it was. Finally decided what the hey, I'll give it a try. I use the Uni knot for most of my hooks and lures, haven't had a knot break...yet. Kinda leery of using a Palomar knot though. And the heavier test lines do have more memory than the lighter stuff. But if I stretch it a little every so often, it's manageable. Seems like all the good things I heard about are true after all
"Rip Some Lips" Nevadan by birth, Texan by choice Retired USAF, 1966-1989 Jim C.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729939
04/25/18 01:24 PM
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20lberorbust
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If you can get the knot to the hook down (I use a Kreh knot to the hook) and then learn how to tie to braid (alberto knot) you get the lower price and castability of braid with the "invisibility" and "sinking" of the flouro. The knots took some time to adapt to but now that I am doing braid to flouro, I won't be going back to straight mono or flouro (except for my straight mono topwater combo and light rig).
Big B
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729962
04/25/18 01:38 PM
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Ken A.
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My phone auto correct always spells it "Floral Carbon"
I have a Love/Hate relationship with it. I like the lower stretch properties of Flo vs. mono. It definitely helps you feel the bottom and the bait better but it does have more memory. It also sinks so you can't fish a topwater effectively on it so I always have to have One More rod & reel with me when I go.
I have gained tremendous confidence in the Albright knot joining heavy braid to heavy Flo in recent trips. I am tying 25# Flo to 65# braid. Last trip out I hung up two jigs in the rocks and pulled like CRAZY to break the line. Both times the line broke down near the jig and not at the Albright. I was impressed.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12729997
04/25/18 01:58 PM
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stringwise
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Does a body else hate flourocarbon line? I have tried every brand on the market and cannot find one that I like. There seem to be a lot of threads on here and other forums about the downside of Flouro. I just don't understand them to be honest. I would say I fish more than the average fisherman, at least twice a week and tournaments every other weekend for 6 months out of the year. I buy 5 1,000 yard spools of fluorocarbon each year. I buy braid every other year or every three years. I don't buy any other line. What exactly don't you like about Fluoro? I have read about line conditioners, I don't use them. A lot of different knots out there, I use the palomar, without any issues. I don't have any knot failures but I do tie it the same way every time and I see a lot of people tying improperly. When it's tied correctly wetting the knot is not really necessary but I will wet it maybe 50% of the time. Larger line diameters I wet and smaller I don't but that's not a hard fast rule for me. I only buy Seaguar but I've heard great things about Sunline and other brands. 10, 12 and 15 I use Invizx 17 and 20 I use Abrazx That's it, no magic, no special knot, no line conditioners, I don't "change it frequently" but will change it when it gets down on the spool after a ton of use. I have about 30 combos with different brands of rods and reels and they all fish it about the same, so no special equipment being used either. I would be interested in hearing what you don't care for about it because it's a head scratcher to me to try to understand what the problem is?
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12730025
04/25/18 02:14 PM
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Kens3313
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Use KVD line conditioner if your like me and don't get your line stretched enough. I use Seaguar InvizX and I really like it. When it starts to get too much memory use the line conditioner
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12730027
04/25/18 02:15 PM
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Champion1
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I don't get it either. I get more bites than mono or braid and that's all I care about. I use the knot that Mark Pack says to use. The double san diego jam knot and it is almost unbreakable. I use Berkley 100% flouro and it is some strong stuff. I use mono on topwaters and braid on a-rig and frogs. Simple.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12730031
04/25/18 02:19 PM
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Ian Fellenbaum
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Seaguar Abrazx + KVD line conditioner
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: stringwise]
#12730034
04/25/18 02:21 PM
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Chris G
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There seem to be a lot of threads on here and other forums about the downside of Flouro. I just don't understand them to be honest.
I would say I fish more than the average fisherman, at least twice a week and tournaments every other weekend for 6 months out of the year. I buy 5 1,000 yard spools of fluorocarbon each year. I buy braid every other year or every three years. I don't buy any other line.
What exactly don't you like about Fluoro?
I have read about line conditioners, I don't use them. A lot of different knots out there, I use the palomar, without any issues. I don't have any knot failures but I do tie it the same way every time and I see a lot of people tying improperly. When it's tied correctly wetting the knot is not really necessary but I will wet it maybe 50% of the time. Larger line diameters I wet and smaller I don't but that's not a hard fast rule for me.
I only buy Seaguar but I've heard great things about Sunline and other brands.
10, 12 and 15 I use Invizx 17 and 20 I use Abrazx
That's it, no magic, no special knot, no line conditioners, I don't "change it frequently" but will change it when it gets down on the spool after a ton of use. I have about 30 combos with different brands of rods and reels and they all fish it about the same, so no special equipment being used either.
I would be interested in hearing what you don't care for about it because it's a head scratcher to me to try to understand what the problem is?
This is my opinion to the exact point. All I use is fluorocarbon and braid. I re-stock every December with 1,000 yard spools of Invisex from Tackle Warehouse when they have them at 35% off. I only change out the line on my reels when the memory gets too bad or about 2-3 times per year per reel. I use braid for all top waters. And just like this poster, I tie nothing but the Palomar knot for all applications and never break at the knot.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Champion1]
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04/25/18 02:28 PM
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bigfishtx
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I don't get it either. I get more bites than mono or braid and that's all I care about. I use the knot that Mark Pack says to use. The double san diego jam knot and it is almost unbreakable. I use Berkley 100% flouro and it is some strong stuff. I use mono on topwaters and braid on a-rig and frogs. Simple. Not much to add to that, you nailed it. I think a lot of folks new to fluoro may not understand that when you backlash, and most will until they get used to the different casting characteristics, if you pull it hard and make that "V" in the line (kink it), it's toast most of the time. It will break on the next cast or next fish most likely. Also, leaving a loose loop on the spool, to where you hear the line slapping it when you cast, the line is getting damaged and there's another failure point. Knots are super critical. 100% of my cranking and jerking is fluoro. Anything from 10 lb Sniper to 20 lb Bass Pro Fluoro. Braid for flipping and frogging, if I see the need for a fluoro leader for flipping, it's 30 lb Seaguar Fluoro, the 25 yard spool in the salt water section for my heavy stuff, 25 lb sunline reaction for the lighter stuff. Buzz baits, Shower Blows, Whopper Ploppers, and other big tops, braid unless the water's too clear, then it's 20 lb P line CXX. Ricos are on 12-15 lb P Line CXX depending on cover. Everyone has their line preferences, and confidence is everything in fishing. Every style of fishing I do other than topwater, I need every bit of sensitivity I can get, and mono or co polymer just doesn't provide the feel I need.
Keep the Lord in your heart and keep your powder dry. 5:5
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12730083
04/25/18 02:53 PM
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greenen
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12730090
04/25/18 02:55 PM
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BMCD
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Find one you like and go with it.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12730101
04/25/18 03:01 PM
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Insurance man
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I like it and have been using it for the last two years but it sure did cost me at the Big Bass Splash...had one about 8lbs on and line broke right at the spool and broke my heart with it.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Champion1]
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04/25/18 03:12 PM
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Razorback
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I don't get it either. I get more bites than mono or braid and that's all I care about. I use the knot that Mark Pack says to use. The double san diego jam knot and it is almost unbreakable. I use Berkley 100% flouro and it is some strong stuff. I use mono on topwaters and braid on a-rig and frogs. Simple. I do exactly the same on all counts, although I don't throw an A-rig. I love the Berkley 100% fluorocarbon.
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
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04/25/18 04:08 PM
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tin man 55
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1. Memory 2. Any kink from a "professional overrun" will break 3. Have to be so careful with knots 4. Expense
And i've used Invizx....
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12730407
04/25/18 06:27 PM
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daddystog
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Love Invizx, but if you have a "Professional Overrun" and crimp the line at all bite the bullet and respool right then , other than that it's just like everything else , learn to take care of it and take care with your knots
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
#12730641
04/25/18 08:29 PM
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AgSellers04
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I love lighter weight fluorocarbon line in the 6 to 10 lb range. Once it gets up around 15 and especially 20 lb, I have serious problems with my knots popping on me.
Fluoridation is a Communist plot!
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Re: Fluoridation line
[Re: Rducky]
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04/26/18 02:29 AM
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ezbassin
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I like Invizx, it has never let me down. I also like P Line Halo but it is more expensive than Invizx and has more memory but it is really strong.
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