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 Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: John Peebles]
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04/01/18 07:14 PM
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Flooringit
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Gotta say in all my years of competitive bass fishing, and just fishing in general I never thought of getting out of the boat and walking up and down the shoreline to locate spawning fish for my partner. Damn shame what some people will do for money. People do much worse for money
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: beartrap]
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04/01/18 07:17 PM
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Flooringit
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sometimes there is thin line between cheating and bending the rules.....was big controversy in florida a few years ago over whether putting dog food in brushpiles was cheating or not....believe they finally put in a rule in one tournament trail that you couldn't do that...
What does dog food do?
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: John Peebles]
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04/01/18 07:34 PM
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Jarrett Latta
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I've left the boat in almost every tournament to use the bathroom only. Taken plenty of polygraphs in the same event and I've never even once thought it was an issue. If you personally think it's a violation, either don't do it, or simply bring it up during pre polygraph questions and explain yourself. That resolves any issues.
On another note, rumor is that winner of Poche benefit tournament had someone bring them more crankbaits while on a spot. Basically called and had someone go buy more cranks and bring them to the lake then to the spot. Was it against the rules? Not in that tournament. Was it unethical... probably but if it isn't clearly stated what you can do and what you can't...not much you can do but change the rules for the next event.
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: Flooringit]
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04/01/18 07:37 PM
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El Skeeter
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sometimes there is thin line between cheating and bending the rules.....was big controversy in florida a few years ago over whether putting dog food in brushpiles was cheating or not....believe they finally put in a rule in one tournament trail that you couldn't do that...
What does dog food do?
Dog food attracts bait fish and the circle of life goes on.
Not only were the brushpiles being baited with dogfood but the kissimmee grass edge, beds etc.as well.
Most trails here have a rule against both. Thankfully.
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: John Peebles]
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04/01/18 08:04 PM
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Wouldnt it be hard to get on the bank at Conroe without trespassing?
I cant imagine that this would not be considered cheating even if there wasnt a rule about getting out of the boat.
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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04/01/18 08:12 PM
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mudd
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I've left the boat in almost every tournament to use the bathroom only. Taken plenty of polygraphs in the same event and I've never even once thought it was an issue. If you personally think it's a violation, either don't do it, or simply bring it up during pre polygraph questions and explain yourself. That resolves any issues.
On another note, rumor is that winner of Poche benefit tournament had someone bring them more crankbaits while on a spot. Basically called and had someone go buy more cranks and bring them to the lake then to the spot. Was it against the rules? Not in that tournament. Was it unethical... probably but if it isn't clearly stated what you can do and what you can't...not much you can do but change the rules for the next event. Thats probably actually true bout him. Guy has a nice wrap sheet but yet people still use him for guiding and what not. Seems he likes taking others money off the water illegally lol
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: John Peebles]
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04/01/18 08:52 PM
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beartrap
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been fishing tournys and tourney trails since early 70's and don't recall ever fishing one that wouldn't let you get out of the boat for any reason....most tournys have a "no leave the boat except for emergency' rule but all of them that I'm aware of consider going to the bathroom an emergency whether it be a trip to an actual restroom or up on the bank behind a tree deal....
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: 9094]
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04/01/18 09:40 PM
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Monty Wright
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Wouldnt it be hard to get on the bank at Conroe without trespassing?
I cant imagine that this would not be considered cheating even if there wasnt a rule about getting out of the boat. I've seen people get out of their boat in the Walden Marina area & walk down the bulkhead, looking for bedding bass on multiple occasions. As recently as last week.I'm sure there are more areas to do it on the lake, but with the multiple condo's on the waterfront, it's a great place to look for the bed near the bulkheads. I don't think Evers seeing a biggun there on national TV helped the situation any.
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: Mark Perry]
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04/01/18 09:50 PM
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Happykamper
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Getting help from non tournament competitors covers some of it as well. I know for a fact that leaving the boat while tournament is underway is allowed in some trails. I left my partner with my boat last year and bought a new coil for my motor when we were having engine problems. He continued fishing while I ran to the shop. I called the TD prior to doing so then. I also have seen other guys leave the boat to use bathroom etc in that trail and its one of the larger trails. I think they meant leaving the boat to spot bedding bass or to land a fish, surely you can leave the boat to go to restrooms etc in all tournies. I was referring to Mr. Peebles where he posted this: Every trail I fished even 15+ years ago had a rule that you could not leave the boat for ANY reason. Wow, that may be as dumb as the new NFL rule regaurding tackling while leading with the head.
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: John Peebles]
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04/01/18 10:17 PM
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John Peebles
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Seen plenty of people go #1 and #2 either off the back of the boat or in a bucket. No emergency there.
Even heard of some sick S.O.B. #2 in his livewell. LOL!!!
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: Kisndismis]
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04/01/18 10:44 PM
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RKT
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There is some blantant favoristim on that trail. Please give us examples of direct evidence that you have observed of this. If you cannot, then please do not attack another's business without personal knowledge and proof.
Last edited by RKT; 04/01/18 10:44 PM.
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: John Peebles]
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04/01/18 10:53 PM
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RedRanger
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Every trail I fished even 15+ years ago had a rule that you could not leave the boat for ANY reason. Haven't read AQ rules, but I think that pretty much covers this situation. The more negative attention we put on these few anglers the less likely is it to happen. Kinda like putting a spotlight on roaches. I just looked at two trails. BassChamps and Media and they don't say you can't leave the boat. Only you can't leave the boat to look for fish, etc. I don't see any trail saying you can't leave the boat for the restroom, that would be silly.
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: John Peebles]
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04/01/18 10:58 PM
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rj74955
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I've tried taking a dump off of the back of the boat several times. Not only were there some terrible consequences, the other contestants driving by didn't appreciate it very much.
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: John Peebles]
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04/01/18 11:01 PM
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Finesse EMPEROR/ Dropshot King
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Seen plenty of people go #1 and #2 either off the back of the boat or in a bucket. No emergency there.
Even heard of some sick S.O.B. #2 in his livewell. LOL!!! 
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Re: Cheating at Anglers Quest?
[Re: Finesse EMPEROR/ Dropshot King]
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04/02/18 12:49 AM
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Happykamper
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Seen plenty of people go #1 and #2 either off the back of the boat or in a bucket. No emergency there.
Even heard of some sick S.O.B. #2 in his livewell. LOL!!! You could line the livewell with a trash bag, buddy of mine told me it works pretty good.
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