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#12676048 - 03/16/18 02:10 PM what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ?
Madatu Offline
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Registered: 02/21/17
Posts: 162
Loc: Texas
i use both Humminbird and Lowrance units. i like the look but the Lowrance said there was lots of fish under my boat but my bird say saying there was not anything. I am not sure how accurate it is. my fish finders are Humminbird 9 SI non mega and Lowrance 5ti.
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#12676202 - 03/16/18 04:34 PM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Madatu]
Dayne Offline
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Registered: 12/16/06
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That is not an easy question to answer. How far apart are the transducers and what kHz are they running? How deep was the water?

If you were seeing them on the bow transducer the boat may have spooked them and they would never show on the stern one.

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#12676960 - 03/17/18 08:18 AM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Madatu]
grout-scout Offline
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Registered: 12/08/08
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One of the few complaints I have heard about hummingbird was with their 2d sonar and it not showing fish very well. Wayne P. can shed more light on the subject for us, he is the bird guru and what he says will be the truth.

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#12677191 - 03/17/18 12:18 PM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Madatu]
shut-up-and-fish Offline
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Registered: 02/08/10
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Loc: Lewisville Tx.

While the new Lowrance "Fish Reveal" looks great I see the fish the same on my bird with Mega image and or 455kHz. The only difference is on my bird they are not the 2D sonar coloration and 2D Sonar Arches. I have not had the pleasure of being on the water with it 1st hand at this time.
I do like the new color palettes for the HDS Carbon.
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#12677209 - 03/17/18 12:39 PM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Madatu]
Wayne P. Offline
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Originally Posted By: Madatu
i use both Humminbird and Lowrance units. i like the look but the Lowrance said there was lots of fish under my boat but my bird say saying there was not anything. I am not sure how accurate it is. my fish finders are Humminbird 9 SI non mega and Lowrance 5ti.


It is an simple as knowing how to use your equipment and when comparing two units using the same frequencies on both units at the same boat speed and knowing how sonar represents fish.







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#12682672 - 03/21/18 10:03 AM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Madatu]
shut-up-and-fish Offline
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Humminbird Fish I.D. has been around from the very beginning.
https://www.technologicalangler.com/humminbird-fish-id-system
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#12682679 - 03/21/18 10:07 AM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Madatu]
Rob Jasper Lowrance Pro-Staff Offline
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The new Fish Reveal downscan technology is very different from anyone's sonar Fish ID.
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#12683024 - 03/21/18 01:20 PM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: shut-up-and-fish]
UJC Offline
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 2210
Loc: Plano, TX
Originally Posted By: shut-up-and-fish


Humminbird Fish I.D. has been around from the very beginning.
https://www.technologicalangler.com/humminbird-fish-id-system

As well as Lowrance.
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#12683166 - 03/21/18 03:01 PM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Rob Jasper Lowrance Pro-Staff]
Wayne P. Offline
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Registered: 11/16/10
Posts: 4100
Loc: Charlottesville, Va
Originally Posted By: Rob Jasper
The new Fish Reveal downscan technology is very different from anyone's sonar Fish ID.


Yes it is 2D sonar fish arches overlayed on the Down Scan view.
Just the opposite of overlaying Down Scan on 2D sonar that the units have.

My responses above concerned fish being displayed with Humminbirds as noted in grout-scout's post.
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#12683567 - 03/21/18 08:37 PM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: UJC]
shut-up-and-fish Offline
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Registered: 02/08/10
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Loc: Lewisville Tx.
Originally Posted By: UJC
Originally Posted By: shut-up-and-fish


Humminbird Fish I.D. has been around from the very beginning.
https://www.technologicalangler.com/humminbird-fish-id-system

As well as Lowrance.


I guess that is what I was trying to say.
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#12684447 - 03/22/18 11:58 AM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Madatu]
Rob Jasper Lowrance Pro-Staff Offline
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Registered: 10/06/05
Posts: 635
Loc: Arlington, TX
Hope this helps - The new Fish Reveal by Lowrance is not Fish ID or simple 2D overlay, this is the real fish arches from the CHIRP or Broadband sonar interlaced via proprietary software in with the downscan image.
This new capability is going to help the average fisherman move off the shoreline. From the images I have seen on my units during testing, it is a game changer. I will get some screen shots off Lake Palestine & Holbrook when I can.
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#12684470 - 03/22/18 12:10 PM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Madatu]
Neches Offline
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Registered: 04/06/10
Posts: 1159
Installed the new upgrade on my Elite 9TI and I can’t tell any difference. I don’t expect the images to look like the carbon images but I expected to see something change

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#12684515 - 03/22/18 12:31 PM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Rob Jasper Lowrance Pro-Staff]
44 Diesel Offline
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Registered: 12/25/12
Posts: 5235
Loc: Burleson,TX
Originally Posted By: Rob Jasper
Hope this helps - The new Fish Reveal by Lowrance is not Fish ID or simple 2D overlay, this is the real fish arches from the CHIRP or Broadband sonar interlaced via proprietary software in with the downscan image.
This new capability is going to help the average fisherman move off the shoreline. From the images I have seen on my units during testing, it is a game changer. I will get some screen shots off Lake Palestine & Holbrook when I can.


Are the fish marks from the 455/800khz or the 83/200 kHz?

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#12684522 - 03/22/18 12:32 PM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Neches]
grout-scout Offline
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Registered: 12/08/08
Posts: 6975
Loc: Boerne, Texas
Originally Posted By: Neches
Installed the new upgrade on my Elite 9TI and I can’t tell any difference. I don’t expect the images to look like the carbon images but I expected to see something change



I don’t want to sound too stupid, you did turn the fish reveal option on, right? Did you adjust the sensitivity any?

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#12686066 - 03/23/18 11:22 AM Re: what are your feelings on the new Lowrance update ? [Re: Madatu]
Rob Jasper Lowrance Pro-Staff Offline
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Registered: 10/06/05
Posts: 635
Loc: Arlington, TX
This fish arches are initially generated from Sonar 83/200/Chirp.
If you installed the software and can't see anything once you are on the water or in simulator mode, call me.
You have both down-scan color pallets and fish reveal color pallets which allow the fish arches to stand out in a different color.

Rob - 817-319-1194 (if you go to voice-mail, leave me a message so I can return your call)
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