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#12672597 - 03/14/18 02:40 PM Finally getting better!
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Went to Lake Nacogdoches this morning. Water temp had dropped from 65 to 60. Found fish only in 23 ft of water or deeper. They were hanging about 15ft deep on VERTICAL structure. Males were dark too.






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#12672661 - 03/14/18 03:46 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: Jacob]
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Spawning that deep or Staging to move up shallow and spawn is the question of the day! Ha.

Nice fish.

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#12672761 - 03/14/18 04:56 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: Jacob]
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You're giving me Hope Jacob!!!!! Thank you!!!!! And nice haul!!!! thumb
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#12672959 - 03/14/18 07:22 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: SheCrappieKilla]
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Originally Posted By: SheCrappieKilla
Spawning that deep or Staging to move up shallow and spawn is the question of the day! Ha.

Nice fish.


Exactly my question. Blacks and whites were that deep, and I caught mostly males.
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#12672992 - 03/14/18 07:40 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: Jacob]
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Cooler weather pushed um deeper. But they hadn't been there long, or they wouldn't be that dark... IMO
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#12673093 - 03/14/18 08:37 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: Jacob]
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Interesting having dark males that deep. pretty fish!
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#12673110 - 03/14/18 08:42 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: Jacob]
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Yea, cool...I caught 18 this afternoon in 1 to 2 feet of of water....they moved from the bank to six feet off...

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#12673131 - 03/14/18 08:51 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: Jacob]
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Ya, I think it has a lot to do with the water clarity. I was fishing a stump today that was about 5 ft under the surface and could see it clear as day. So, they are probably hanging about 10-12 ft deep suspending on any structure in that range until it gets dark.
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#12673136 - 03/14/18 08:56 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: Jacob]
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#12673171 - 03/14/18 09:09 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: Jacob]
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THEY ARE SPAWNING!!! cooler weather doesnt push them deeper, the barometric pressure changes that occur when frontal conditions arise is what makes them move. 23 feet of water column doesnt change temperature enough in a few cold overnight hours to affect anything.

shouldnt the males be nest building on the banks? they arent because they have structure to spawn on at a depth they are comfortable at.
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#12673190 - 03/14/18 09:14 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: Jacob]
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Originally Posted By: Jacob
Ya, I think it has a lot to do with the water clarity. I was fishing a stump today that was about 5 ft under the surface and could see it clear as day. So, they are probably hanging about 10-12 ft deep suspending on any structure in that range until it gets dark.


you think they sneak into shallow water at night to spawn?
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#12673199 - 03/14/18 09:15 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: Jacob]
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Originally Posted By: Jacob
Ya, I think it has a lot to do with the water clarity. I was fishing a stump today that was about 5 ft under the surface and could see it clear as day. So, they are probably hanging about 10-12 ft deep suspending on any structure in that range until it gets dark.


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#12673213 - 03/14/18 09:21 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: leanin post]
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Honestly, I believe they are too, especially because I’m mostly catching males, which would make sense. Males are there protecting the nest. The pattern seems to be consistent too. I’ve caught jet black males year after year on this lake on deep brush (18-25 FOW).

I’ve read a lot of articles on water clarity and the spawn. They all y’all about light penetration. I think it may have be something even simpler that keeps them from being super shallow- birds. Not sure if fish have a natural imaging to avoid predators from above the water, but I’d assume they’d try to keep deep enough to stay out of striking distance of eagles, cranes, kingfishers etc. Just a thought...


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#12673219 - 03/14/18 09:23 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: fishin'aholic2]
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Originally Posted By: fishin'aholic2
Interesting having dark males that deep. pretty fish!



you want to know why spawn is so difficult for so many fisherman, its because they will fish 40 miles of banklines and get skunked because they just refuse to believe that crappie can spawn as deep as they decide to.
they come uop with every excuse in the book, the birds ate them, the females reabsorbed thier eggs, the lightning killed them and they sunk to the bottom, the flood washed them away, they didnt spawn this year, we caught them all last year,its the zebra mussels, the water is too clear, the water is too dirty, global warming, polar ice caps melting, salt water intrusion, the bees are disappearing, the golden rod plant poisoned the water, hydrilla choked them out, duckweed clogged thier gills. the cormorants ate them all. the otters dammed up the creek and blocked the fish from getting back there.. its all BS.


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#12673233 - 03/14/18 09:26 PM Re: Finally getting better! [Re: leanin post]
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Originally Posted By: leanin post
Originally Posted By: Jacob
Ya, I think it has a lot to do with the water clarity. I was fishing a stump today that was about 5 ft under the surface and could see it clear as day. So, they are probably hanging about 10-12 ft deep suspending on any structure in that range until it gets dark.


you think they sneak into shallow water at night to spawn?



I think they sneak in to feed and some spawn at night. There was a radio tag study done in one of the articles I was reading saying that crappie moved a ton during the spawn and would go back and forth constantly, but would tend to go shallower at night and deeper as the sun rises.
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