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#12667938 - 03/11/18 05:38 PM More break offs when bed fishing
Chris_K Offline
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Ths Last 2 fish I have broken off were bed fish. 1 today, 2 last year. With none in between I feel like it isnít an equipment or knot issue. I donít think itís size related either. Fresh 20lb sunline sniper FC on a 7ft md hvy rod.. Are you more likely to break em off when sight fishing due to having less line out? Any other theories? Iíll be spooling 50lb braid tonight.

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#12667953 - 03/11/18 05:52 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Chris_K]
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less one more it leaves,less,room for stretch. May be worse with braid. Most of my break offs on hook set have been with less than 10 yards out.
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#12667954 - 03/11/18 05:52 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Chris_K]
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Braid....done.

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#12667995 - 03/11/18 06:46 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Chris_K]
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Originally Posted By: Chris_K
Ths Last 2 fish I have broken off were bed fish. 1 today, 2 last year. With none in between I feel like it isnít an equipment or knot issue. I donít think itís size related either. Fresh 20lb sunline sniper FC on a 7ft md hvy rod.. Are you more likely to break em off when sight fishing due to having less line out? Any other theories? Iíll be spooling 50lb braid tonight.


Yes sir you are much more likely to break them off when you are looking at them.

Two reasons:

1. Adrenaline when you see the bite
2. Not much line between you & them to absorb the shock

Braid will certainly lessen the chance of break offs but all you really have to do is adjust your hookset to a sweep set.

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#12668015 - 03/11/18 07:08 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Chris_K]
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first need to know where you are bed fishing at? asking for research... popcorn

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#12668019 - 03/11/18 07:11 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Finesse Master/ Dropshot king]
Chris_K Offline
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Originally Posted By: Finesse Master/ Dropshot king
first need to know where you are bed fishing at? asking for research... popcorn


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#12668061 - 03/11/18 07:50 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Chris_K]
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If you're breaking off on hooksets, find the right rod to absorb it. I wouldn't change the way you set the hook, Id get a dedicated rod to sight fish.

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#12668064 - 03/11/18 07:52 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Chris_K]
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set your drag on your reel appropriately. 1/3 the breaking strength rating of your line.

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#12668075 - 03/11/18 07:58 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Chris_K]
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The reason Sunline casts easier and has less memory is it's thinner. It's just simple physics. I like Sunline, but it's not nearly as shock resistant as a few other lines.


Gamma Edge is the strongest fluorocarbon line made, IMO

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#12668089 - 03/11/18 08:09 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Chris_K]
buggsboy Offline
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Maybe try 20 lb test McCoy Mean Green.
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#12668097 - 03/11/18 08:12 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Chris_K]
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Everyone wants to flip with a hvy action xtra fast rod. I was recently reading where Greg Hackney has migrated to a med hvy action moderate fast tip. Thatís ďvery bendyĒ in most peopleís mind. This rod will absorb the shock as Jaret mentioned.

Iíd try that first and see what you think. Youíll soon make it your pitching rod whether youíre looking at them or not.

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#12668103 - 03/11/18 08:17 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: K.D.]
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Originally Posted By: K.D.
Everyone wants to flip with a hvy action xtra fast rod. I was recently reading where Greg Hackney has migrated to a hvy action moderate fast tip. Thatís ďvery bendyĒ in most peopleís mind. This rod will absorb the shock as Jared mentioned.

Iíd try that first and see what you think. Youíll soon make it your pitching rod whether youíre looking at them or not.


This ^^^^^^

not much line out to stretch so it breaks change rods problem solved. I wouldn't change line or hook set.

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#12668134 - 03/11/18 08:46 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: 921 Phoenix]
Chris_K Offline
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Iím actually only using a 1/4 oz weight, so Iím using a med heavy/ fast rod. Surely it isnít too stiff.

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#12668155 - 03/11/18 09:01 PM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Chris_K]
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Originally Posted By: Chris_K
Iím actually only using a 1/4 oz weight, so Iím using a med heavy/ fast rod. Surely it isnít too stiff.


Even a MH rod will snap your line if you do a Gorilla-Hookset on a fish up close & personal. I will assume it is a good fish or you wouldn't be throwing at her. When a biggun takes a soft plastic bait it goes to the back of the fish's throat.

When you set the hook the line instantly goes tight against her teeth. That's what causes your line to break on the hookset when you are right on top of the fish.


Edited by Ken A. (03/11/18 09:02 PM)

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#12668391 - 03/12/18 06:59 AM Re: More break offs when bed fishing [Re: Chris_K]
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I normally use 25# p-line on my broomstick this time of year but got caught with 20# Saturday. I broke off an 8+ three times Saturday. I've never had that happen before. If someone catches a bass with three jigs in her mouth I will pay the shipping if you would return them please.
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