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Snake ID?
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03/04/18 11:55 PM
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TXfisherman12
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I think the snake is the real bad boy- water moccasin. I know there is a water snake that looks similar but what do y’all think?
It was a different world when we were boys and girls....
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/04/18 11:58 PM
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Sorry trying to post pic but not working yet
It was a different world when we were boys and girls....
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 12:07 AM
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Sorry trying to post pic but not working yet I think you have to have 500 post to post a pic.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 12:52 AM
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Sorry for the snake tease. This is the best image I can manage.
It was a different world when we were boys and girls....
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 01:00 AM
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I copied the link over to the Off Topic section. There are some experts over there. We should have a positive ID shortly.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 01:22 AM
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Wide body and skinny tail = water mocassin.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 01:46 AM
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Hard to see the head for absolute confirmation, but it sure looks like a cottonmouth moccasin to me.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 01:53 AM
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It could be mr Bad but hard to say definitely without a good head shot.He could be a banded water snake.
HE aka Fishbonz
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 01:56 AM
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Grab it in the middle, after it bites you on the hand, look to see if there are 2 major holes or a bunch of small ones. 2 Holes = Bad Many = Good....
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 01:57 AM
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 04:35 AM
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Looks too long and skinny to be a cottonmouth.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 10:20 AM
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Looks like a moccasin. Spent a lot of time roaming the creeks when I was young, saw lots of moccasins but every now and then I'd run across what we called a spread nanner (hognose) snake. I think they kind of resembled a moccasin but a much flatter head.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 01:48 PM
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Def appears to me be a cottonmouth to me!! super dark, mottled splotches, skinny tail, fat body...
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 01:49 PM
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Looks too long and skinny to be a cottonmouth. You think that snake looks skinny? 100% Cottonmouth
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 02:56 PM
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The bars on the underside of the jaw are a giveaway. It's a watersnake. Cotton mouths don't have the black bars on the lower jaw, and they have a dark patch running on the side of their heads through the eyes
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 03:01 PM
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Watersnake .... tail is way too long for a stumptail moccasin.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 06:34 PM
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Looks too long and skinny to be a cottonmouth. You think that snake looks skinny? 100% Cottonmouth In relation to it's girth,yes.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 06:40 PM
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That's a water snake, but I'll say that's about as close to a cottonmouth that a watersnake can look.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 06:54 PM
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Well, this is a bad pic of the snakes head...BUT it is evident the head is diamond shaped (pit viper) and not round, Plus, the body is fat, thick, and short relative to most water snakes...I don’t care about the head markings, Even if you could see them from the pics supplied...this snake has too many features of a cottonmouth...as such this snake is dead, if I see him.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 06:56 PM
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It could be mr Bad but hard to say definitely without a good head shot.He could be a banded water snake. A good head shot is exactly what this snake needs Bonz...from my .22 mag!
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 07:09 PM
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It could be mr Bad but hard to say definitely without a good head shot.He could be a banded water snake. A good head shot is exactly what this snake needs Bonz...from my .22 mag!
HE aka Fishbonz
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 08:49 PM
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this snake has too many features of a cottonmouth...as such this snake is dead, if I see him. Poor little water snake, he didn't do anything
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 09:21 PM
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Cotton mouth.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 09:34 PM
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*******Expert here. This is literally what I studied in college. Caught my fair share of snakes by hand. Correct in that it is hard to tell by the picture so not saying this with 100% certainty but about 95%, but it's a water snake...not venomous. Water snakes have an almost identical anatomy to the moccasin, EVEN THE TRIANGLE HEAD!!!!!! You have to look for tiny distinguishing features like the bars and coloring on the jaw, the shape of the retina, and if you have experience the lumpiness of the head where the venom glands change the shape eeeever so slightly.
Water moccasins got their name "cottonmouth" because when they feel threatened they ball up and open their mouth wide so you can see the white inside, looks like a cotton swab. If the snake is threatened and they do this 1) the behavior alone tells you it's a moccasin not a water snake 2) you can see the fangs.....
99% of the snakes we all see around the water that we think are venomous are actually just water snakes. I've seen less than a dozen moccasins my whole life. Totally would wrangle that there snake!
Eric
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/05/18 11:00 PM
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I've seen less than a dozen moccasins my whole life.
Eric You must be either real young, or don't get out much .... I have seen a dozen REAL (and I know the difference) moccasins in one mud hole feeding on minnows small fish in the Trinity River bottom! I killed 50 or so on an island we were camping on one time! We built a fire to cook hotdogs and 8 copperheads and 3 water moccasins came up to the fire .... YES, the tent zipper was wired shut with a fish hook after that!
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/06/18 12:35 AM
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I'm 51 and fished all my life. I don't think i have seen 20 in my life. But i don't think every snake i see around water is a cottonmouth
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/06/18 06:43 AM
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yep I am gonna get right up there close as I can and go oops got nailed ,, nah I leave that to the specialist lmao ..
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/06/18 11:43 AM
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It could be mr Bad but hard to say definitely without a good head shot.He could be a banded water snake. A good head shot is exactly what this snake needs Bonz...from my .22 mag! I have a saying about this particular situation...when in doubt, whip it out!
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/06/18 01:59 PM
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Arrived at work this morning at 6:15 and when the night guy I relieved left there was a little rat snake under his truck! It was about 50 degrees out here, so I guess he was just trying to stay warm, anyway, when I picked him up to take him off the location one of the other hands thought it was a copperhead.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/06/18 03:31 PM
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The pattern looks like a dark colored diamond backed water snake to me.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/06/18 06:37 PM
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Water Snake, see them all the time around rocks in my fishing hole when the weather warms up
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/11/18 01:32 AM
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Cotton mouth,wide stumpy body,(looks like he has the arrow shaped head of a pit viper) stay away ,they are aggressive!!!
Born on the bayou
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/11/18 01:34 AM
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Cottonmouth!Wide stubby body flat arrowhead shaped head.Stay away,aggressive snake!! ,
Born on the bayou
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/11/18 04:59 PM
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Herpetologist here- definite Nerodia (water snake). As are 90% of the aquatic snakes we encounter in Texas.
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Re: Snake ID?
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03/11/18 09:14 PM
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bangbangbangbangbang,...dead snake.
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