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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 09:32 PM
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Champion1
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Trilene 100% is on 90% of my rods
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 09:48 PM
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I use Seaguar Inxisx and Red label Fluorocarbon and the old fishermans knot. Yes flouro is alot more finicky as compared to mono. As far as mono goes Big Game is all I use and never had an issue with it for over 30 years. I use a Palomar knot on all mono applications.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 10:08 PM
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zaspook
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Trilene 100% is on 12 of my rods and braid with Trilene 100% leaders on 3. Leaders are tied with FG knots all others palamor knots except loop knot on crank baits. I use KVD line conditioner when I put it on reels and spray it when line starts to curl. I only change line when spool gets too low, lasts for a long time.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 11:08 PM
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Ken A.
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I get the small overrun loops at times but not big loops that hang on the reel. I try to clean out the small ones but it seem like any little kink in these lines damage them. Ive been using the Berley 100% Fluoro. Sorry you are having issues but it ain't the line.
Last edited by Ken A.; 02/23/18 11:09 PM.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/24/18 12:48 AM
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Dubee
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I use big game and berkley 100 and braid. I tie a palomar on all of them. It's been years since i had a break off.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: Ken A.]
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02/24/18 01:15 PM
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I get the small overrun loops at times but not big loops that hang on the reel. I try to clean out the small ones but it seem like any little kink in these lines damage them. Ive been using the Berley 100% Fluoro. Sorry you are having issues but it ain't the line. I agree with Ken. Berkley's fluoro has a good reputation. Good advice has been given by others; go conservative on your reel's breaks to reduce backlashes and get the hang of how it handles before backing the brakes off again. Wet your line while you're tightening down the knot (you don't have to tighten the knot much, just snug it down and leave half an inch or so tag). I use Palomar and San Diego Jam exclusively. Check your line regularly for damage above the lure. I may re-tie 20+ times during a day fishing rocky cover. You could also take a Q-tip and swirl it around the eyes of your rods to check for tiny abrasive spots. That is rare, but it's good to cover all the bases since you're having that much trouble with a good line. That being said, everyone puts out defective line from time to time. Maybe it was a bad spool?
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/24/18 03:19 PM
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Bigg Un
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I also use big game exclusively...and the BPS fluorocarbon...used both for years with no problems...not saying I don't break off but it's rare and usually results from damage to the line for one reason or another...the only knot I tie is the palomar...
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/24/18 04:38 PM
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Ive used T Line by Mason for nearly 30 years. As the new lines came out, I tried them. Nothing compares to T Line. Buy it online. Problem solved. http://www.masontackle.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=23
"..The pleasantist angling is to see the fish Cut with her golden oars the silver stream, And greedily devour the treacherous bait. Bill Shakespeare
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/24/18 06:16 PM
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forkduc
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I just went from flouro back to big game. Tired of line breaking in the spool.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: Clark3]
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02/24/18 06:17 PM
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forkduc
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I like McCoy co-polymer also.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: bsouth401]
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02/24/18 08:19 PM
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Dr JL
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I agree with the previous responders. Something is up somewhere. I used to try this and that line from time to time when I would here a good review but have always depended on Big Game. I'v had only one spool of Big Game that was questionable and I chunked it in the trash and bought amother one. I uses InvisX almost exclusively and until I figured out it's issue inherant to all fluorocarbon line I almost gave up on it. If you kink it up in a big birdnest it's pretty much toast. If you don't wet it before you cinch it up it you will burn it and snap! I tie a double San Diego knot with four wraps on 20 # Invix and I can pullt the boat with it! I also tie a polamar with Invix on a drop shot but pay real close attention to not crossing the line. Mono and braid I generally always use a polomar knot. I undertand your frustrations as I've been there. You may want to get a Q-tip or some cotton from a Cotton ball and check your guides for burs. This post is accurate based on my own experience and others I have fished with. I just keep it simple and use only fresh big game, or new braid, and a palomer knot and only one knot, no leaders. Thats just me though and I only fish a few ways so its easier. One overlooked thing is the eye of your hooks, sometimes they can cut your line-I often tie a dummy knot over those and cut it off so my real knot doesnt get near it, or use hooks that have a completely welded eye. Also, I like an oblong split ring or completely welded one over a circular one for similar reasons. I think we all have line frustrations at some point-weakest link that it is. Good line care, keeping fresh line, proper spooling, correct knot ties with lots of spit, using a reproducible knot, etc., are just part of learning how to fish well.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/25/18 01:46 PM
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jmo49
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I have to chime in on my experience with Flouro, always been a mono guy, Stren clear blue for over 40 years, old school I guess, never a problem, was going to Falcon last month everyone said spool up 17-20 lb test for all the brush, so I thought I might try some Flouro that everyone raves about, bought a spool of Invisix 20 lb, it was like spooling up wire, casted very bad, broke twice on the spool,half way thru the day, respooled with my old school mono, lesson learned for me
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/25/18 02:25 PM
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Hog Jaw
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Agree with all , double check everything starting from reel to first guide and during the day of fishing you might be surprised.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: senko9S]
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02/25/18 06:42 PM
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94sktr
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might try out P-Line Premium CX. it's a fluoro coated co-polymer that is fairly limp with good strength, and is also affordable and durable.. This^^^^^^^^ Also been using izorline with good results.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/25/18 08:22 PM
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I've found that fluoro over a certain line diameter is pretty forgiving. For invizX for instance, above about 14lb line you can be pretty sloppy with your knot and odds are you are going to be fine. With smaller fluoro though (less than 14lb) if you don't use the right knot and lubricate the daylights out of it you are going to burn the line on the cinch and it'll break easy. I always test my knots with a good pull when using fluoro.
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