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Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
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02/23/18 07:59 PM
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PettyBigBass
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I used Big Game for years but it seams like the quality is not what it was many years ago. It breaks and cuts easy as compared to 20 years ago. I started trying fluorocarbon and i got so frustrated with making a cast, watching my $10 crankbait fly out into the lake with $14 worth of the fluorocarbon line that broke in the middle of the spool go with it. Ive set the hook and had my line break I dont know how many times with both Big Game and Flouro not to mention the hours Ive spent in the bottom of the boat trying all of these new fan dangled knots for the flouro. I spend half my day jacking with this stuff. Please help! whats a good line that will last more than one day of fishing? I like the way the flouro feels and looks but dang. What knot is best. I try the professional YouTube knot with the three tag ends and "BINK" when I set the hook.
Thank you for your help in advance
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 08:02 PM
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shotgunwilly
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Something's wrong. Are you getting loops in your reel when you cast and reel it in? Those will cut against your reel when you cast. Are your rod guides in good shape? A damaged one will weaken your line. You shouldn't be breaking off during a cast.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 08:03 PM
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senko9S
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might try out P-Line Premium CX. it's a fluoro coated co-polymer that is fairly limp with good strength, and is also affordable and durable..
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 08:04 PM
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senko9S
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oh, and if you are using Vanish, then throw it away.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 08:12 PM
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Matt1212
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I'm guessing brand too. Flouro I use is strong
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 08:12 PM
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bogey♂
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Make sure to wet your line before clinching down on the knot. I use a San Diego Jam knot for almost everything.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: shotgunwilly]
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02/23/18 08:24 PM
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PettyBigBass
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I get the small overrun loops at times but not big loops that hang on the reel. I try to clean out the small ones but it seem like any little kink in these lines damage them. Ive been using the Berley 100% Fluoro.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 08:32 PM
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Clark3
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I get the small overrun loops at times but not big loops that hang on the reel. I try to clean out the small ones but it seem like any little kink in these lines damage them. Ive been using the Berley 100% Fluoro. Lol the vanish. Theres a reason its 1/2 price of other fluorocarbon. Seagar redlabel is about the cheapest fluorocarbon i would spool. The invisix is about the best there is at $26 for 200 Yards. I rarely use fluorocarbon, but use big game 15 lb green on almost every lake, even when Pk has 20+ ft visibility and I rarely break off on it. Something aint right
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 08:36 PM
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bigbass94
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I get the small overrun loops at times but not big loops that hang on the reel. I try to clean out the small ones but it seem like any little kink in these lines damage them. Ive been using the Berley 100% Fluoro. Weird. I've had good success with Berkley 100% Fluorocarbon. I much prefer Sunline FC Sniper or Shooter, but the Trilene 100% is always my back up.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 08:52 PM
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SAKS
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
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02/23/18 08:59 PM
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Chet
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Wet the knot good, if you get a backlash remove it carefully as any force can nick the line and it will fail there. Other than that in general I have no issues with Flour.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 09:03 PM
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DBFishing83
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Just use Suffix Siege ...... best dang stuff in the world (IMHO) quite worrying about lure specific application, stretch / no stretch, sensitivity etc etc etc use either 12-14 for lighter stuff use 17 or 20 if you want heavier stuff the JUST FISH IT ....... no worries.
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 09:08 PM
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tricky
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Get you some McCoys mean green in 17lb test. Its not fluorocarbon, but its Strong Like Bull...and lasts a long time!
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 09:19 PM
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daddystog
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You must to have got some old Big game that's been setting in a warehouse for years , i use 8lb big game for Square bills and spinnerbait if I hang up I can pull the boat over to it and can't break it , as for as Fluoro you do have to be careful with crimping it in any way
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Re: Flourocarbon and Big Game Frustrations
[Re: PettyBigBass]
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02/23/18 09:22 PM
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bsouth401
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I agree with the previous responders. Something is up somewhere. I used to try this and that line from time to time when I would here a good review but have always depended on Big Game. I'v had only one spool of Big Game that was questionable and I chunked it in the trash and bought amother one. I uses InvisX almost exclusively and until I figured out it's issue inherant to all fluorocarbon line I almost gave up on it. If you kink it up in a big birdnest it's pretty much toast. If you don't wet it before you cinch it up it you will burn it and snap! I tie a double San Diego knot with four wraps on 20 # Invix and I can pullt the boat with it! I also tie a polamar with Invix on a drop shot but pay real close attention to not crossing the line. Mono and braid I generally always use a polomar knot. I undertand your frustrations as I've been there. You may want to get a Q-tip or some cotton from a Cotton ball and check your guides for burs.
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