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#12613428 - 02/06/18 10:25 AM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: ChuChu1]
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Registered: 03/12/14
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Loc: Midlothian
Originally Posted By: ChuChu1
Originally Posted By: engnman
Originally Posted By: ChuChu1
If you have to keep them seperate, how do guides get away with putting all the fish in one cooler?


See original post,if you are with a guide you can combine catch except for the guides.


The bag limit for a guided fishing party is equal to the total number of persons in the boat licensed to fish or otherwise exempt from holding a license minus each fishing guide and fishing guide deckhand multiplied by the bag limit for each species harvested.

All that is saying is the guide or deck hands cannot contribute to the catch.



There is no rule, regulation, or law that says the catch must be kept seperate. The warden suggested they be kept separate for his convenience. If the catch is over the limit, he will ask who caught the most.


We ask these questions,wardens said you are required to keep your fish separate,this was not a suggestion. I do not know,would like to see this in rules and regs.Dove,duck,etc.require each hunter keep their harvest separate from other hunters.If catch is combined who gets the ticket for shorts,over limits,sandy vs. hybrid?

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#12613444 - 02/06/18 10:39 AM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: engnman]
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Who gets the ticket if, on a guided trip, and four clients combine the catch and are one fish over the limit?
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#12613450 - 02/06/18 10:42 AM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: ChuChu1]
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Registered: 01/27/14
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Originally Posted By: ChuChu1
Who gets the ticket if, on a guided trip, and four clients combine the catch and are one fish over the limit?
Guide, his job to keep track


Edited by fmrmbmlm (02/06/18 10:42 AM)

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#12613458 - 02/06/18 10:46 AM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: engnman]
BrazosRiverTom Offline
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Registered: 12/15/12
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I have always been told the game wardens can do what ever they want and can make up the law as they go.
I would have loved to take them to court on this point and hopefully get a judge that likes to fish.

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#12613467 - 02/06/18 10:50 AM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: fmrmbmlm]
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Originally Posted By: fmrmbmlm
Originally Posted By: ChuChu1
Who gets the ticket if, on a guided trip, and four clients combine the catch and are one fish over the limit?
Guide, his job to keep track


Did he contribute to the catch? Law says he can't so he wasn't fishing. You cannot ticket someone for not breaking a law.
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#12613531 - 02/06/18 11:22 AM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: engnman]
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Really sucks when you find out that you are just a milk cow for the state.

Game wardens may need to be reined in. This is wrong.
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#12613579 - 02/06/18 11:54 AM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: engnman]
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Huh. Have been checked a few times over the years. This was never an issue on the times that the GW's checked our fish while on the water.

Once with my pop, and another time with a co-worker, I was putting all our fish into the ice chest. The GW's were very concerned with size limits, but didn't question anything about separating the fish out. Maybe it was relevant that we were clearly under our bag limits no matter whose fish they were?
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#12614181 - 02/06/18 05:24 PM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: engnman]
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The way I see this is, if one partner is out fishing the other partner and catches his 25 fish, he's done fishing for the day. But with 2 people the limit is 50. So therefore you keep fishing until the 2 of you get both limits. So therefore 1 partner is in violation. But who gonna say? Understood now?
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#12614296 - 02/06/18 06:22 PM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: Ranger-188-2007]
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Originally Posted By: Ranger-188-2007
The way I see this is, if one partner is out fishing the other partner and catches his 25 fish, he's done fishing for the day. But with 2 people the limit is 50. So therefore you keep fishing until the 2 of you get both limits. So therefore 1 partner is in violation. But who gonna say? Understood now?


I agree with this.When I have 25 crappie I close my ice chest and work on the rest until all are full.Same as 4 people with 100 crappie in 1 ice chest,GWs reply was who gets the ticket for a 9.5" crappie in the chest.Don't know the answer.Would probably have to go to court and let a judge decide.

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#12614423 - 02/06/18 07:41 PM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: sfw1960]
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where do I gotta go to catch 45 yellow perch? My lifetime total is about a dozen, all in the Trinity river below Lake Livingston dam .... a long time ago!

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#12614653 - 02/06/18 09:34 PM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: engnman]
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Wow! Trinity has yellow perch?

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#12614700 - 02/06/18 10:10 PM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: C.M.]
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Originally Posted By: Shoreboundangler
where do I gotta go to catch 45 yellow perch? My lifetime total is about a dozen, all in the Trinity river below Lake Livingston dam .... a long time ago!


Originally Posted By: C.M.
Wow! Trinity has yellow perch?


Yellow Bass, maybe. You've got to go to somewhere like Lake Meredith to catch any Yellow Perch here in Texas.
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#12615255 - 02/07/18 10:54 AM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: engnman]
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I could only "wish" I knew what a "limit" smelled like.

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#12615423 - 02/07/18 12:13 PM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: engnman]
BrazosRiverTom Offline
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Registered: 12/15/12
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Loc: Mineral Wells, TX
Originally Posted By: engnman
Originally Posted By: Ranger-188-2007
The way I see this is, if one partner is out fishing the other partner and catches his 25 fish, he's done fishing for the day. But with 2 people the limit is 50. So therefore you keep fishing until the 2 of you get both limits. So therefore 1 partner is in violation. But who gonna say? Understood now?


I agree with this.When I have 25 crappie I close my ice chest and work on the rest until all are full.Same as 4 people with 100 crappie in 1 ice chest, GWs reply was who gets the ticket for a 9.5" crappie in the chest.Don't know the answer.Would probably have to go to court and let a judge decide.


Then it logically should be the boat owner who gets the ticket. If they wanna get that picky. Now they have someone to ticket and do not have to worry about separating the fish.

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#12616020 - 02/07/18 07:04 PM Re: How do you keep fish limits while fishing? [Re: engnman]
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I have never heard of this with fish....Dove's yes, but not fish. I'm all about game laws, but i really can't see how this can be a law, or even remotely practical. Reference example below.

Example: I have a 20' Bay boat, legally will hold 6 folks, we decide to go try and catch some Specs, all limit out, that's 60 Specs, so the Game Warden is saying that i have to have 6 - 45 quart coolers in my boat!?!

I'm gonna see what i can dig up.
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