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Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: Outdoordude] #12590459 01/22/18 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: Outdoordude
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Just an observation but it seems like a lot of these guys that put their mind into qualifying through the opens put weeks into scouting each lake and do very well. Once they make it to the Elites and have just a few days they can't repeat that success.


I think you might be on to something there.


It's easier to qualify through the opens.

The "locals" usually occupy the top slots at each event. Then the local that placed well on his/her own lake TANKS severely on other lakes. The person that is consistent on all lakes places higher in the points.

My case is proof. I fished miserably my first tourney. Somewhere around 80th out of 240. Second tourney I was 18th. Third tourney I was 4th. Finished in the top 10 in points for the year.

A friend of mine faired similarly without the poor 80th. He fished in the top 40 each event....never winning or even close....but finished in the top 4 in points and fished the elites last year.


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Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: Frank the Tank] #12590475 01/22/18 08:00 PM
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Man, I would have a hard time calling ANY of the guys named a bust, except for Rose. All phenomenal fishermen,,,, even Velvick is a sight fishing machine. But I can tell you 2 things that have busted a lot of them out of the bigs, money and more money. There is an art to talking people into investing in your dream, and about 99% of the best natural fishermen in the world don't have that gift. Bass fishing is making strides, with high school teams and college scholarships and MLF and whatnot. But as long as it's a pay to play "sport", I can't call any of these guys a bust. I can't imagine how some of these guys can focus on fishing, truly focus, when they are trying to scrounge up enough money to make it to the next tournament.

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Evers almost went broke and quit before he got a nice loan to continue then started winning.

Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: rj74955] #12590499 01/22/18 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: rj74955
Man, I would have a hard time calling ANY of the guys named a bust, except for Rose. All phenomenal fishermen,,,, even Velvick is a sight fishing machine. But I can tell you 2 things that have busted a lot of them out of the bigs, money and more money. There is an art to talking people into investing in your dream, and about 99% of the best natural fishermen in the world don't have that gift. Bass fishing is making strides, with high school teams and college scholarships and MLF and whatnot. But as long as it's a pay to play "sport", I can't call any of these guys a bust. I can't imagine how some of these guys can focus on fishing, truly focus, when they are trying to scrounge up enough money to make it to the next tournament.


Well put.

I'm a hard guy to get to know. And for that, I suffer in the public relation dept! When I was sponsored years ago (in a different, but just as expensive form of competition), I was fronting every bit of my own way for three years. During those three years, I won two world championships. Beating factory and factory supported TEAMS. I was finally approached by a company the 3rd year and they said instead of me beating their efforts, they'd support mine. And again for the 4th and 5th world titles.

It is the same for fishing(though NOT for me ...I'm not good enough), a lot of really great anglers will never get factory backing for the sport because of their personalities or appearance. At least not until they front their own way into the top and make the companies see the value in not losing to them.


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Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: senko9S] #12590684 01/22/18 09:30 PM
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Evers almost went broke and quit before he got a nice loan to continue then started winning.

And now he's probably the #2 most established guy out there behind the guy from Michigan. Another example, Evers brother in law, Terry Butcher Jr.,,,, truly one of the most gifted natural fisherman and nicest guys ever. Give everyone a spinnerbait, a squarebill, no electronics and no information and I would put my money on Butcher all day every day. But the big time is a whole different animal.

Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: SteezMacQueen] #12590777 01/22/18 10:21 PM
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Man, I would have a hard time calling ANY of the guys named a bust, except for Rose. All phenomenal fishermen,,,, even Velvick is a sight fishing machine. But I can tell you 2 things that have busted a lot of them out of the bigs, money and more money. There is an art to talking people into investing in your dream, and about 99% of the best natural fishermen in the world don't have that gift. Bass fishing is making strides, with high school teams and college scholarships and MLF and whatnot. But as long as it's a pay to play "sport", I can't call any of these guys a bust. I can't imagine how some of these guys can focus on fishing, truly focus, when they are trying to scrounge up enough money to make it to the next tournament.


Well put.

I'm a hard guy to get to know. And for that, I suffer in the public relation dept! When I was sponsored years ago (in a different, but just as expensive form of competition), I was fronting every bit of my own way for three years. During those three years, I won two world championships. Beating factory and factory supported TEAMS. I was finally approached by a company the 3rd year and they said instead of me beating their efforts, they'd support mine. And again for the 4th and 5th world titles.

It is the same for fishing(though NOT for me ...I'm not good enough), a lot of really great anglers will never get factory backing for the sport because of their personalities or appearance. At least not until they front their own way into the top and make the companies see the value in not losing to them.



" When I was sponsored years ago (in a different, but just as expensive form of competition), I was fronting every bit of my own way for three years. During those three years, I won two world championships. Beating factory and factory supported TEAMS."


Let me guess, you were a professional ice skater. thumb


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Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: Frank the Tank] #12590819 01/22/18 10:47 PM
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I'm also always blown away by guys that pull a David Duval, David Fritts immediately comes to mind.


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Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: PieFiller1] #12590839 01/22/18 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: PieFiller1
I'm also always blown away by guys that pull a David Duval, David Fritts immediately comes to mind.


confused Fritts was a solid contender for an entire decade. Dominant? No, but you could really only saddle one fellow with that description. He consistently cashed checks throughout the 90s.


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Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: M. Alexander] #12590849 01/22/18 11:03 PM
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I'm also always blown away by guys that pull a David Duval, David Fritts immediately comes to mind.


confused Fritts was a solid contender for an entire decade. Dominant? No, but you could really only saddle one fellow with that description. He consistently cashed checks throughout the 90s.


Duval hurt his back in a snowboarding accident and battled Vertigo too, otherwise his career is totally different. He will do very well on the Champions when that time comes.

Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: rj74955] #12590851 01/22/18 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: rj74955
Man, I would have a hard time calling ANY of the guys named a bust, except for Rose. All phenomenal fishermen,,,, even Velvick is a sight fishing machine. But I can tell you 2 things that have busted a lot of them out of the bigs, money and more money. There is an art to talking people into investing in your dream, and about 99% of the best natural fishermen in the world don't have that gift. Bass fishing is making strides, with high school teams and college scholarships and MLF and whatnot. But as long as it's a pay to play "sport", I can't call any of these guys a bust. I can't imagine how some of these guys can focus on fishing, truly focus, when they are trying to scrounge up enough money to make it to the next tournament.


Very well said. Excellent point.


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Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: GIG'EM AGGIES] #12590859 01/22/18 11:14 PM
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Man, I would have a hard time calling ANY of the guys named a bust, except for Rose. All phenomenal fishermen,,,, even Velvick is a sight fishing machine. But I can tell you 2 things that have busted a lot of them out of the bigs, money and more money. There is an art to talking people into investing in your dream, and about 99% of the best natural fishermen in the world don't have that gift. Bass fishing is making strides, with high school teams and college scholarships and MLF and whatnot. But as long as it's a pay to play "sport", I can't call any of these guys a bust. I can't imagine how some of these guys can focus on fishing, truly focus, when they are trying to scrounge up enough money to make it to the next tournament.


Well put.

I'm a hard guy to get to know. And for that, I suffer in the public relation dept! When I was sponsored years ago (in a different, but just as expensive form of competition), I was fronting every bit of my own way for three years. During those three years, I won two world championships. Beating factory and factory supported TEAMS. I was finally approached by a company the 3rd year and they said instead of me beating their efforts, they'd support mine. And again for the 4th and 5th world titles.

It is the same for fishing(though NOT for me ...I'm not good enough), a lot of really great anglers will never get factory backing for the sport because of their personalities or appearance. At least not until they front their own way into the top and make the companies see the value in not losing to them.



" When I was sponsored years ago (in a different, but just as expensive form of competition), I was fronting every bit of my own way for three years. During those three years, I won two world championships. Beating factory and factory supported TEAMS."


Let me guess, you were a professional ice skater. thumb


Nah.....but close. You hint is in your guess.


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Man, I would have a hard time calling ANY of the guys named a bust, except for Rose. All phenomenal fishermen,,,, even Velvick is a sight fishing machine. But I can tell you 2 things that have busted a lot of them out of the bigs, money and more money. There is an art to talking people into investing in your dream, and about 99% of the best natural fishermen in the world don't have that gift. Bass fishing is making strides, with high school teams and college scholarships and MLF and whatnot. But as long as it's a pay to play "sport", I can't call any of these guys a bust. I can't imagine how some of these guys can focus on fishing, truly focus, when they are trying to scrounge up enough money to make it to the next tournament.


Well put.

I'm a hard guy to get to know. And for that, I suffer in the public relation dept! When I was sponsored years ago (in a different, but just as expensive form of competition), I was fronting every bit of my own way for three years. During those three years, I won two world championships. Beating factory and factory supported TEAMS. I was finally approached by a company the 3rd year and they said instead of me beating their efforts, they'd support mine. And again for the 4th and 5th world titles.

It is the same for fishing(though NOT for me ...I'm not good enough), a lot of really great anglers will never get factory backing for the sport because of their personalities or appearance. At least not until they front their own way into the top and make the companies see the value in not losing to them.



" When I was sponsored years ago (in a different, but just as expensive form of competition), I was fronting every bit of my own way for three years. During those three years, I won two world championships. Beating factory and factory supported TEAMS."


Let me guess, you were a professional ice skater. thumb


Nah.....but close. You hint is in your guess.


Oh, you modeled Guess Jeans, yeah that's the ticket.


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Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
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Man, I would have a hard time calling ANY of the guys named a bust, except for Rose. All phenomenal fishermen,,,, even Velvick is a sight fishing machine. But I can tell you 2 things that have busted a lot of them out of the bigs, money and more money. There is an art to talking people into investing in your dream, and about 99% of the best natural fishermen in the world don't have that gift. Bass fishing is making strides, with high school teams and college scholarships and MLF and whatnot. But as long as it's a pay to play "sport", I can't call any of these guys a bust. I can't imagine how some of these guys can focus on fishing, truly focus, when they are trying to scrounge up enough money to make it to the next tournament.


Well put.

I'm a hard guy to get to know. And for that, I suffer in the public relation dept! When I was sponsored years ago (in a different, but just as expensive form of competition), I was fronting every bit of my own way for three years. During those three years, I won two world championships. Beating factory and factory supported TEAMS. I was finally approached by a company the 3rd year and they said instead of me beating their efforts, they'd support mine. And again for the 4th and 5th world titles.

It is the same for fishing(though NOT for me ...I'm not good enough), a lot of really great anglers will never get factory backing for the sport because of their personalities or appearance. At least not until they front their own way into the top and make the companies see the value in not losing to them.



" When I was sponsored years ago (in a different, but just as expensive form of competition), I was fronting every bit of my own way for three years. During those three years, I won two world championships. Beating factory and factory supported TEAMS."


Let me guess, you were a professional ice skater. thumb


Nah.....but close. You hint is in your guess.


Skateborder/skater ?

Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: fouzman] #12591183 01/23/18 02:19 AM
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Here is a pro that started at an early age, was innovative, very nice soft spoken angler, but never won much.

https://www.flwfishing.com/anglers/zell-rowland-195604



You should do a bit more research.

https://www.bassmaster.com/anglers/zell-rowland



Wow I missed a huge part of his winnings. I always liked Zell and I modified my pop r's like he said to do.

Re: Biggest Bust in Bass fishing [Re: Frank the Tank] #12591290 01/23/18 03:21 AM
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I wouldn't call him a bust, but all of the older guys on here probably remember Ricky Green. AKA(Mr. Spinnerbait or Mr.Consistency) As I recall he didn't win many tournaments, but finished 2nd in very many. And I believe 3 or 4, 2nd place Classic finishes. In the early 80's Bassmaster did a article on him, and at the time he had finished in the more times % wise than anyone. I do not know if he is still with us or not, as I haven't heard his name in probably 30 years.

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