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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: fouzman]
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01/20/18 05:42 PM
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LearnedHat
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It may have been the flying lure but the one that would glide away from you on slack line worked for me a couple of times in getting under docks.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: fouzman]
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01/20/18 05:43 PM
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Fish AKA Jerry
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Before you bash Roland too much for promoting a sponsor just remember that today you same guys probably have paid for $20 cranks baits,$100 glide baits,$300 reels,and oh yeah $70,000 bass boats. And by the way I am not a big fan of Roland but he does deserve some respect. Just my opinion.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: fouzman]
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01/20/18 06:04 PM
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Flippin-Out
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Roland has always been a promoter. Obnoxiously so at times. But he lives, breathes, eats and sleeps fishing. Even today in his mid 70's, the man is obsessed with everything fishing. Particularly the competitive aspects.
A bit of trivia for those who don't know. Who introduced the tungsten-nickel worm weight to the world? Roland. Who came up with the metallurgical formula, design and production of that weight?
Mark Pack. So Roland has been a closet metallurgist in his spare time? ...and a production engineer? LMAO! I would imagine that the weights we use are NOT a unique-to-fishing tungsten formulation; the application just isn't that critical. We need something dense and hard, which can be satisfied by many formulas. Which exact one gets used by each supplier is likely a cost/availability matter. A unique "metallurgical formula" for such a tiny volume production of material would drive the price up to be like space shuttle parts. Design? Aren't they just each supplier's rendition of a bullet weigh shape in general? Are we concerned with aerodynamics for Mach 2 performance, or maybe an extreme temperature range? Is there a specific shape that only works if the material is tungsten? The examples revealing the ridiculousness of the stated claims can go on and on. Maybe Roland thought of looking for a higher density material, and discovered by talking with others that the answer to that was "something made of tungsten" is what you want. I don't know either way, but I would find it very very far-fetched and odd that he "drove" the technology. How many of you actually believe an angler designed a rod? (Design = choose actual materials, resin, wall thickness, arbor size & taper, lamination pressure, etc.) Anglers might say "I want a rod that bends like blah blah" and then they try what the supplier brings them. They'll try that prototype and say something like "it needs a little more power" or "it needs to bend more into the backbone" etc.....and then the supplier updates the design and delivers yet another prototype for testing. In general, anglers TEST; they are not designers, nor production engineers.
Last edited by Flippin-Out; 01/20/18 06:05 PM.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: Fish AKA Jerry]
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01/20/18 06:04 PM
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Chet
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I'm sure he's a nice guy but what a fiber.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
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01/20/18 06:22 PM
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senko9S
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I caught quite a few bass on the banjo minnow when I was a kid. I did too, they caught em reel good.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: fouzman]
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01/20/18 07:24 PM
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Frank the Tank
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Have to admit, I was pretty shocked when he opened the COOLER for that fish. Kinda sad........ different time.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
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01/20/18 07:59 PM
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Douglas J
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Have to admit, I was pretty shocked when he opened the COOLER for that fish. Kinda sad........ different time.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: fouzman]
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01/20/18 09:16 PM
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Fooshman
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Got a pack of Flying Lures in the garage.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: fouzman]
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01/21/18 03:08 AM
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Rayzor
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I give Roland all of the respect he deserves. I can't watch his fishing shows though. He's selling something from the very second the camera starts rolling. Boat cleaner, lip balm, energy shots, lures, fishing line, etc., etc. Every pro fisherman on camera is a salesman. He's just the most flagrant.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: fouzman]
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01/21/18 05:50 AM
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GODSDOZER
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He is a marketing guru, why hate on successful people. fishing probably would not be what it is today without guys like him. I can relate him to pioneers like Arnold palmer in golf, tea, penzoil oil, The Golf Channel oh , and did I mention the umbrella, ...............way beyond their times. Its called CAPITALISM, sadly a dying thing in America.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: fouzman]
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01/21/18 05:37 PM
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Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
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Roland is the original GOAT. Also I hope I catch a fish that wont fit in my livewell lol!!! Thanks for posting Fouz
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: fouzman]
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01/21/18 06:44 PM
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rj74955
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What about Dance's talking jig and Carolina weights? They would start clicking when they got wet and had a small replaceable battery. My mom bought me some for Christmas once, I respectfully thanked her but thought they were ridiculous. I never tied the Carolina weights on but the jigs actually looked pretty good. I put them in my jig box, a black and blue and black and chartreuse. I caught a few fish on them, but the thing I remember most was them clicking while laying on the front deck of the boat in the rain lol.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: fouzman]
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01/22/18 12:28 AM
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JPro
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Fortunately I found one hung on a stump on Toledo Bend.I had intended to buy some.I used it and tossed it in the garbage where it belonged.Pure junk.And don't forget the Screw Worm he was hawking too.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: fouzman]
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01/22/18 12:43 AM
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Rayzor
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Years ago, I ordered some "completely weedless" lures. I can't remember who they were made by. They were 3/4" long, football shaped, all metal and have a spring loaded hook in them. I don't know what possessed me to buy two of them. I never even tied one on my line.
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Re: The Introduction of the "Helicopter Lure"
[Re: Flippin-Out]
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01/22/18 01:44 AM
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criglizard
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In general, anglers TEST; they are not designers, nor production engineers. Very broad statement. Plenty of anglers are engineers, designers, chemists, and every single other profession in the world. A lot of the equipment we use today was created by really creative and smart people that love to fish. We are lucky for that... Oh and fouzman said that Mark Pack created tungsten, not Roland.
Last edited by criglizard; 01/22/18 01:46 AM.
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