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#12581534 - 01/16/18 03:39 PM Illegal Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville *Video added*
CoastalBent Offline
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Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 405
Loc: Denton
I have video of a home developer shredding buckbrush with a Bobcat on the shoreline of Lewisville. I asked if he had a permit to clear COE land, and he did not. He took out about 200 ft of prime bass spawning cover in the back of a cove. Should I report it to COE? Is there anything they will do?


Edited by CoastalBent (01/16/18 04:10 PM)

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#12581574 - 01/16/18 04:09 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: CoastalBent]
CoastalBent Offline
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Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 405
Loc: Denton

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#12581577 - 01/16/18 04:11 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: CoastalBent]
SkeeterRonnie Online   happy
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Registered: 02/25/03
Posts: 53366
Loc: Campbell, TX
Wouldnt that be similar to clearing out the bank line, building a retaining wall, and digging out the water in front of it?

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#12581582 - 01/16/18 04:13 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: SkeeterRonnie]
CoastalBent Offline
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Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 405
Loc: Denton
Originally Posted By: SkeeterRonnie
Wouldnt that be similar to clearing out the bank line, building a retaining wall, and digging out the water in front of it?


Well, not really.... but yes in that either way, you are required to get a permit on a Corps of Engineers Lake.

...and the COE does not give out permits to clear brush just because you want a nice beach in front of your lot. It was not his land to clear.


Edited by CoastalBent (01/16/18 04:15 PM)

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#12581599 - 01/16/18 04:28 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: CoastalBent]
corps2010 Offline
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Registered: 03/26/14
Posts: 11
The COE will throw him under the bus if they see that video. They take that stuff very seriously. (or at least they do on Rayburn).

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#12581606 - 01/16/18 04:30 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: CoastalBent]
flukeman83 Offline
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Registered: 06/19/14
Posts: 1023
...Next time a truck goes speeding past me at 90 mph in a 65mph zone do you think I need to take a video of it and turn him in ?
...Next time I see a bass boat on plane in a no-wake zone do you think I need to take a video of his TX numbers and turn him in ?
***** no real concrete answer here *****
it basically boils down to WHAT "YOU" feel the need to do

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#12581619 - 01/16/18 04:36 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: CoastalBent]
Kisndismis Offline
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Registered: 01/14/09
Posts: 703
Loc: Kingwood, TX
Love social media ( which this is a form of and disclaimer, I dont have a FB account) I saw something I guess/know/assume/presume is wrong, but lets air it out in the court of public opinion as I am not intelligent enough to make a decision on my own as to what to do.


Report it and let us know the outcome,even if they say " mind your own business" Guess OP is scared of that or something.
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#12581655 - 01/16/18 05:02 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: Kisndismis]
LearnedHat Offline
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Registered: 07/16/03
Posts: 483
Originally Posted By: Kisndismis
Love social media ( which this is a form of and disclaimer, I dont have a FB account) I saw something I guess/know/assume/presume is wrong, but lets air it out in the court of public opinion as I am not intelligent enough to make a decision on my own as to what to do.


Report it and let us know the outcome,even if they say " mind your own business" Guess OP is scared of that or something.



This is a perfect forum to broach the subject and there is nothing unintelligent about getting feedback on the matter: whether it be regulatory or ethics related.

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#12581666 - 01/16/18 05:11 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: flukeman83]
LearnedHat Offline
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Registered: 07/16/03
Posts: 483
Originally Posted By: flukeman83
...Next time a truck goes speeding past me at 90 mph in a 65mph zone do you think I need to take a video of it and turn him in ?
...Next time I see a bass boat on plane in a no-wake zone do you think I need to take a video of his TX numbers and turn him in ?
***** no real concrete answer here *****
it basically boils down to WHAT "YOU" feel the need to do


How about the next time somebody fells trees from your local city owned greenbelt/park to use for firewood? Or knowingly transplants an invasive, nonindigenous aquatic plant in a state owned body of water.

Why don't you choose something that is in the ballpark of analogous?

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#12581692 - 01/16/18 05:25 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: LearnedHat]
flukeman83 Offline
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Registered: 06/19/14
Posts: 1023
Originally Posted By: LearnedHat
Originally Posted By: flukeman83
...Next time a truck goes speeding past me at 90 mph in a 65mph zone do you think I need to take a video of it and turn him in ?
...Next time I see a bass boat on plane in a no-wake zone do you think I need to take a video of his TX numbers and turn him in ?
***** no real concrete answer here *****
it basically boils down to WHAT "YOU" feel the need to do


How about the next time somebody fells trees from your local city owned greenbelt/park to use for firewood? Or knowingly transplants an invasive, nonindigenous aquatic plant in a state owned body of water.

Why don't you choose something that is in the ballpark of analogous?


Look I was just trying to support what you are asking ..... but you have to make up your own mind.
as far as analogies ...... it doesn't matter the level of wrong,,,,,if it is wrong it is wrong. The decision is whether YOU think it is wrong enough to report.
I don't like speeders ..... it doesn't matter if it is 5mph over the speed limit or 20mph over the speed limit. I don't like tailgaters, you'll buy my bumper if you tailgate me...... and if drive on plane in a no wake zone around me I am taking a picture of your TX numbers and turning you in. ...... as far as cutting down trees to be used for firewood ..... do they need it for warmth or to cook a meal, if so I'll let it pass.

why in the He!! did you pick on me ...... I didn't say you were scared and needed social media approval. dang

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#12581701 - 01/16/18 05:31 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: flukeman83]
LearnedHat Offline
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Registered: 07/16/03
Posts: 483
Originally Posted By: flukeman83
Originally Posted By: LearnedHat
Originally Posted By: flukeman83
...Next time a truck goes speeding past me at 90 mph in a 65mph zone do you think I need to take a video of it and turn him in ?
...Next time I see a bass boat on plane in a no-wake zone do you think I need to take a video of his TX numbers and turn him in ?
***** no real concrete answer here *****
it basically boils down to WHAT "YOU" feel the need to do


How about the next time somebody fells trees from your local city owned greenbelt/park to use for firewood? Or knowingly transplants an invasive, nonindigenous aquatic plant in a state owned body of water.

Why don't you choose something that is in the ballpark of analogous?


Look I was just trying to support what you are asking ..... but you have to make up your own mind.
as far as analogies ...... it doesn't matter the level of wrong,,,,,if it is wrong it is wrong. The decision is whether YOU think it is wrong enough to report.
I don't like speeders ..... it doesn't matter if it is 5mph over the speed limit or 20mph over the speed limit. I don't like tailgaters, you'll buy my bumper if you tailgate me...... and if drive on plane in a no wake zone around me I am taking a picture of your TX numbers and turning you in. ...... as far as cutting down trees to be used for firewood ..... do they need it for warmth or to cook a meal, if so I'll let it pass.

why in the He!! did you pick on me ...... I didn't say you were scared and needed social media approval. dang


I apologize. I thought your comparisons were insincere while the OP was being sincere, albeit maybe a little enthusiastic and ambitious. Anyway, please forgive me the trespass.

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#12581717 - 01/16/18 05:37 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: CoastalBent]
Jaret Latta Offline
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Registered: 01/06/07
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Loc: Austin, Tx/Nacogdoches, Tx
Snitches end up in ditches...

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#12581718 - 01/16/18 05:37 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: CoastalBent]
TR176 Offline
TFF Team Angler

Registered: 07/17/10
Posts: 3879
Loc: Little Elm
some years ago a developer cut down standing timber up in hickory he was fined small fortune. The shoreline flora is to be maintained for the benefit of wildlife, however a drive around the lake will tell you they don’t enforce it for brush. Trees may be a different issue.

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#12581743 - 01/16/18 05:52 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: LearnedHat]
Kisndismis Offline
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Registered: 01/14/09
Posts: 703
Loc: Kingwood, TX
Originally Posted By: LearnedHat
Originally Posted By: Kisndismis
Love social media ( which this is a form of and disclaimer, I dont have a FB account) I saw something I guess/know/assume/presume is wrong, but lets air it out in the court of public opinion as I am not intelligent enough to make a decision on my own as to what to do.


Report it and let us know the outcome,even if they say " mind your own business" Guess OP is scared of that or something.



This is a perfect forum to broach the subject and there is nothing unintelligent about getting feedback on the matter: whether it be regulatory or ethics related.



Uh yah there is a whole lot of unintellingence in this one, in the form of not being able to make a decision on his/her own. Again, if OP feels that strong about it, report it, and let us know the outcome.


Edited by Kisndismis (01/16/18 05:52 PM)
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#12581748 - 01/16/18 05:54 PM Re: Habitat Destruction on Lake Lewisville [Re: TR176]
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Registered: 10/31/04
Posts: 10639
Loc: San Diego, Ca/ Sanger, Tx
Originally Posted By: TR176
some years ago a developer cut down standing timber up in hickory he was fined small fortune. The shoreline flora is to be maintained for the benefit of wildlife, however a drive around the lake will tell you they don’t enforce it for brush. Trees may be a different issue.


WHo actually got the fine? I don't remember
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