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#12577620 - 01/13/18 11:07 PM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Frank the Tank]
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I think the argument of Bill isn't any good without Tom is not a good argument. I mean you could make that same argument with Bill and Joe, Tom and Roger. Chuck and Terry. I guess you take a lot of these great quarterbacks away and their coaches wouldn't be near as good.

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#12577632 - 01/13/18 11:44 PM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: txmasterpo]
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[quote=txmasterpo]Let's see what he does without Brady....if he keeps doing it I'll concede he's the best, and not just the beneficiary of having the GOAT f

While I see your point, we all agree Tom is the GOAT, who is better than Bellichick or are you saying they all will have that common thread/asterisk (A great QB)?
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#12577711 - 01/14/18 06:29 AM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Frank the Tank]
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You can win a Super Bowl without a great QB. Some pretty poor QBs have won Super Bowls. However it's hard for a coach to win more than one Super Bowl without a great QB.

Some act like Brady fell out of the sky on the Patriots. They did pick him in the 6th round in 2000.


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#12577724 - 01/14/18 06:56 AM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Beer Money]
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Landry wasn't a cheater.


Tom Landry was a very Christian person.

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#12577875 - 01/14/18 09:30 AM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Frank the Tank]
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Had to look it up but at least I know what GOAT means
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#12577885 - 01/14/18 09:33 AM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Frank the Tank]
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What makes any of you guy's think "Touchdown Tom" is going to hang it up after this season?

I haven't heard any retirement rumors/plans. Can't think of a reason why he won't be back in the huddle next season.

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#12577897 - 01/14/18 09:38 AM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: T Bird]
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They are the greatest, damn that pains me to say that.
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#12577920 - 01/14/18 09:54 AM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Frank the Tank]
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^ it’s pretty much indisputable
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#12577933 - 01/14/18 10:01 AM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Frank the Tank]
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A handful of the 50 SB championships were won by bus drivers, that's true. Look at the last 25 years though.... the NFL is a QB driven league more than ever. It's no secret that great players make great coaches. Remove the franchise QB from any of them and you can see.
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#12577939 - 01/14/18 10:05 AM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Frank the Tank]
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#12577946 - 01/14/18 10:09 AM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: txmasterpo]
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Originally Posted By: txmasterpo
A handful of the 50 SB championships were won by bus drivers, that's true. Look at the last 25 years though.... the NFL is a QB driven league more than ever. It's no secret that great players make great coaches. Remove the franchise QB from any of them and you can see.


So are you saying Belichick isn’t a great coach? And that he’s just built by Brady?
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#12577956 - 01/14/18 10:16 AM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Frank the Tank]
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Amendola, Hogan, Welker, all didn’t amount to much elsewhere. Did other teams miss on them? Did Brady make them good? Was it the coach?

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#12578812 - 01/14/18 07:59 PM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Frank the Tank]
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Originally Posted By: Frank the Tank
Originally Posted By: txmasterpo
A handful of the 50 SB championships were won by bus drivers, that's true. Look at the last 25 years though.... the NFL is a QB driven league more than ever. It's no secret that great players make great coaches. Remove the franchise QB from any of them and you can see.


So are you saying Belichick isn’t a great coach? And that he’s just built by Brady?


It's impossible to separate his accomplishments from Brady....they coincide.....and I don't believe there has been a SB championships won without great QB or the best Defense ful of stars in the last 30 years
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#12578819 - 01/14/18 08:02 PM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Davedave]
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Amendola, Hogan, Welker, all didn’t amount to much elsewhere. Did other teams miss on them? Did Brady make them good? Was it the coach?


Of course it was Brady! Ever hear of Laurent Robinson?
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#12578823 - 01/14/18 08:05 PM Re: A new GOAT in town [Re: Frank the Tank]
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Originally Posted By: Frank the Tank
The GOATS just keep on coming from New England. Belichick passed up THE great Tom Landy tonight for most post-season games coached. Wow! The definition of a dynasty is in New England.


Has he passed in most winning seasons Frank? It is official.. you are a Pats fan. Good to know. And Landry wasn't a cheater. cyclop


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