Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
texasjarhead, Chamilton213, Fishin_UP_Jake, Mcneese59, Traka
108411 Registered Users
Top Posters
TexDawg 89103
hopalong 78895
Pilothawk 76590
John175® 68103
JDavis7873® 67391
FattyMcButterpants 60904
Derek 🐝 60652
Tritonman 58109
LoneStarSon® 54588
SkeeterRonnie 53476
facebook
Forum Stats
108411 Members
61 Forums
777249 Topics
10025180 Posts

Max Online: 36273 @ 01/23/13 02:34 PM
Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#12573756 - 01/11/18 10:50 AM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Capt. Michael Littlejohn]
Chris Richardson Offline
Angler

Registered: 04/28/09
Posts: 483
Loc: Athens, Tx
Originally Posted By: Capt. Michael Littlejohn
Originally Posted By: SeaPro-Todd
And FYI regarding DS temperature. I know the the lakes in OK and AR, guys still catching good hybrids with temp in the low 40s. But I didn't have good success at the DFW lakes in temperatures that low. Fish did not respond to the thump.


I have found EVERY lake to Fish totally different. Literally. Some lakes fish great in super cold temps and others don’t. Fish are still on structure on cedar creek with temps in the mid 40’s. It was like that back in the mid 90’s when I started guiding. Not Twok...Fish leave structure around 55°.

Cooper thrives the hotter it gets...Twok struggles in extreme water temps.



All very true, every lake has its own personality. Right now there are fish surfacing under birds on Whitney, while deadsticking deep is hot on Cedar Creek.

I've put in significant hours on:
Livingston
Cedar Creek
Richland Chambers
Palestine
Conroe
Whitney
Tawakoni
Belton

I can assure you that they all fish the same at times, they all fish totally different at times, and that the seasonal pattern shift is a little different on each one.

Lake features that seem to have the most significant impact on patterning hybrid/striper are:

Lake Size
Size/width/depth of river channel, true river channel vs creek channel
Timber density/depth/location of standing timber
Availability of food sources other than shad
_________________________
www.lakelivingstonadventures.com
903 286 4872

Top
#12574418 - 01/11/18 05:16 PM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
kodys'papa Offline
TFF Guru

Registered: 07/19/05
Posts: 17737
Loc: Tawakoni/Mogote, CO.
My neighbor and I have fished a point for black bass , just for fun, In the fall, close to our cove for for the last seven years. This year, twice, we ran into hybrids and sandbass. Same point, seven falls, twice in a year...none in the past six...
_________________________
Hooking a fish is like playing string with a cat. The exact size, shape, color of string matters less than how you wiggle it- and little cats are easier to fool than big ones. John Gierach

Top
#12574492 - 01/11/18 06:07 PM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
SeaPro-Todd Offline
TFF Celebrity

Registered: 04/04/05
Posts: 7334
Loc: Richardson TX
Very good to know. Thanks for sharing, Chris.

It's now blowing up to 40 mph and Brrrr!
_________________________

Top
#12574685 - 01/11/18 08:13 PM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
hornedfrog Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 03/13/10
Posts: 851
Loc: Crowley, TX
very nice fish!
_________________________


Horned Frog

Top
#12575561 - 01/12/18 12:25 PM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Capt. Michael Littlejohn]
Stump jumper Offline
TFF Celebrity

Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 8036
Loc: Rockwall
Originally Posted By: Capt. Michael Littlejohn
Originally Posted By: SeaPro-Todd
And FYI regarding DS temperature. I know the the lakes in OK and AR, guys still catching good hybrids with temp in the low 40s. But I didn't have good success at the DFW lakes in temperatures that low. Fish did not respond to the thump.


I have found EVERY lake to Fish totally different. Literally. Some lakes fish great in super cold temps and others don’t. Fish are still on structure on cedar creek with temps in the mid 40’s. It was like that back in the mid 90’s when I started guiding. Not Twok...Fish leave structure around 55°.

Cooper thrives the hotter it gets...Twok struggles in extreme water temps.
any theories on Texoma. I find flats and creek mouths to work best in winter.
_________________________
2200 Bay Champ/200 Mercury Optimax
2017 Tundra TSS 4x4 Crewmax 5.7L

Top
#12575617 - 01/12/18 01:03 PM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
Dennis Christian Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 08/20/09
Posts: 2555
Loc: Cedar Creek Lake
Chris, you have thrown out a lot of things to consider. In fact, so much we are still left to figure out what to do on which lake. Would you be willing to zero in on what you think works best for each lake? Let's say it's a cloudy day, temp about 50 degrees, wind about 5 mph and water temp is 45 to 50 degrees. In these conditions from your experience what rigs and what presentation techniques for dead-sticking work best for each of the lakes you are familiar with? There seems to be a lot of interest on the forum about this. I'm sure others familiar with specific lakes will also want to add their input. Thanks in advance for whatever specifics you can share. Dennis

Top
#12575783 - 01/12/18 02:58 PM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
SeaPro-Todd Offline
TFF Celebrity

Registered: 04/04/05
Posts: 7334
Loc: Richardson TX
Dennis, I used my phone Navionics map app and studied CC, and the good deep waters for DS are only 5 minutes boat ride from your house. The app has the plus "+" that you can navigate on the map and it shows the depth at that location. I only looked at 40ft to 60ft areas. Love this app!

These deep depths I saw are in open waters and near good structures and over river beds. Great ideal places to thump and stare at your graph to see the responses.


Edited by SeaPro-Todd (01/12/18 03:15 PM)
_________________________

Top
#12575795 - 01/12/18 03:11 PM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
SeaPro-Todd Offline
TFF Celebrity

Registered: 04/04/05
Posts: 7334
Loc: Richardson TX
You need to control your drift to desirable point5 mph point3 mph, so mainly you can use lighter jig heads like 1 oz to 1/2 oz. Faster drift will force to use larger jig heads for more vertical fishing. I prefer the lighter setup, you can feel the light bite better. I prefer drifting over spotlock.

Also, depth of lure is crucial. Look at your graph to see your lure is just "above" the suspended fish. Fish look up toward the sun light. If you are not sure, reel a crank or two higher. That's the reason I used two rods with their depth few feet apart to see what works better.

For Hubbard, the skinny slab below with small fluke on top works better for me. But on twok, larger flukes on bottom and smaller on top work better for me.
_________________________

Top
#12575814 - 01/12/18 03:30 PM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
SeaPro-Todd Offline
TFF Celebrity

Registered: 04/04/05
Posts: 7334
Loc: Richardson TX
And also by looking at your graph and seeing the waves of fish moving through, you can be in the "crouching tiger, ninja jedi" mode for the super quick set hook, as opposed to not being ready. You can relax your arms when fish are not there and be more ready when you anticipate the taps.
_________________________

Top
#12576642 - 01/13/18 10:00 AM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
PlanoKeith Offline
TFF Team Angler

Registered: 01/13/11
Posts: 3498
Loc: Plano Texas
Drifting works best when there are thousands of fish all in the same area. On the screen that Dennis posted in another post below , Spot lock is the beat option. I like this option the best because i can control where my lure goes more than drifting And if the fish move off the structure i can go find them ( with my side imaging ) and set up on top of them again. Frank and I do this all the time and we catch plenty. So to each their own there is not a one set way to catch fish in the winter.
_________________________
Keith smile


Top
#12576674 - 01/13/18 10:21 AM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
Fishboy Frank Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 01/08/11
Posts: 1994
Loc: Rockwall, Texas
What Keith said! I've always said deadsticking can make a Preacher curse. It's kind of like a marriage. You have good days and you have bad days. But you just "stick" with it. Having said that will try Hubbard this long weekend sometime. Hubbard has been good to us old stickers.

Top
#12576691 - 01/13/18 10:32 AM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
Dennis Christian Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 08/20/09
Posts: 2555
Loc: Cedar Creek Lake
Question re thumping: We thumped almost continuously on our Tawakoni trip. But where we caught most of our fish there were about 10 other boats in the area and I don't believe we heard any of them thumping. So, why weren't they thumping? If you are drifting through fish, is thumping even needed?

Top
#12576707 - 01/13/18 10:45 AM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
SeaPro-Todd Offline
TFF Celebrity

Registered: 04/04/05
Posts: 7334
Loc: Richardson TX
I agree with PlanoKeith. I take good notes and aware that few hubbard guys DS and catching fish while spotlock. But my notes from yearly guided DS trips from the last 9 years, guides are out deep and seldom spotlock unless fish are schooling. It's whatever makes you happy lol.
_________________________

Top
#12576708 - 01/13/18 10:46 AM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
PlanoKeith Offline
TFF Team Angler

Registered: 01/13/11
Posts: 3498
Loc: Plano Texas
Dennis i would say no. ( My opinion ) i have seen thumping most productive when fish are in the area and the thumping brings them under your boat when you are spot locked in one position. When Frank and I first saw a guy thumping he was 50 yards away and he kept the fish under him and we did not catch many until he left and we went to where he was. .
_________________________
Keith smile


Top
#12576710 - 01/13/18 10:46 AM Re: Tawakoni Trip 1/9/2018 with Larry, Ed and JR [Re: Dennis Christian]
SeaPro-Todd Offline
TFF Celebrity

Registered: 04/04/05
Posts: 7334
Loc: Richardson TX
Originally Posted By: Dennis Christian
Question re thumping: We thumped almost continuously on our Tawakoni trip. But where we caught most of our fish there were about 10 other boats in the area and I don't believe we heard any of them thumping. So, why weren't they thumping? If you are drifting through fish, is thumping even needed?
Dennis bet most of those boats were guides and they were using the quieter splashers.
_________________________

Top
Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >



© 1998-2018 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide