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Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 06:52 PM
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Indianation65
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I follow the Mavericks, and I'm a big fan. This season, well, it's nothing to talk about. In fact, I barely know most of the players. Anyway, when I was young, I was a big 76ers fan, mostly of Dr. J. I didn't follow Dallas that much until the Nash/Nowitzki years. Derek Harper just had his number retired. The only memory I truly have of him was when he dribbled the ball out and let the clock tick away NOT realizing the Mavs were down. My questions for Mavericks fans who have followed the team since the beginning. Is Derek Harper "jersey retirement" worthy? I'm not saying he isn't. I'm saying I didn't follow him enough during his career. ...------
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 07:33 PM
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I had to look it up, but he is fourth in points, first in assists and first in steals in Mavs history. He played 12 of 16 seasons with them.
Yes, he deserves it.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
[Re: Indianation65]
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01/09/18 07:35 PM
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swalker9513
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yes. I don't think he is a hall of famer, but he was one of the most important players in Maverick history, second only to the big German.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 07:38 PM
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kjwolvy
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As a huge Nav fam I kinda think Dorks is the only one whose number should be retired. Even their championship year they won with a bunch of really good role players, not superstars.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 07:40 PM
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swalker9513
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As a huge Nav fam I kinda think Dorks is the only one whose number should be retired. Even their championship year they won with a bunch of really good role players, not superstars. And a hall of fame point guard.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 07:42 PM
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Indianation65
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So far it's Brad Davis, Rolando Blackman and Derek Harper.
Clearly, Dirk will have a retired jersey. I'd bet he won't have to wait years and years for it either.
I've looked up the Best Mavericks of all-time, and clearly I don't know enough about any of the old players to opine, including DHarper.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 07:45 PM
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Is there not a jersey for Roy Tarpley?
Don't worry about the mule, just load the cart
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 07:47 PM
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Mark Aguirre should be in there somewhere. That guy could score at will seemed like.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 07:48 PM
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jcarring99
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Is there not a jersey for Roy Tarpley? What a waste of talent that was. He was a bad [censored].
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 07:55 PM
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Tarpley let his demons and addictions tear his "retirement jersey" to shreds.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 08:13 PM
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What could have been with Tarpley and yes Aguirre could fill it up.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 08:30 PM
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Harper was one of the main reasons the Mavs were tied in the game when he dribbled out the clock. I think he was exhausted and just made a mistake. Deserves it.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 08:40 PM
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Yes, and Id argue for Finley also (Dirk obviously)
Aguirres departure and Kidds departures were not exactly amicable; thus unlikely to have jerseys retired
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 09:41 PM
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I met Derrick Harper on the 10th tee box at trails of frisco golf club, guy was as nice and pleasant as you could ask for, however, i know nothing of his mavs career
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 09:44 PM
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As a huge Nav fam I kinda think Dorks is the only one whose number should be retired. Even their championship year they won with a bunch of really good role players, not superstars. And a hall of fame point guard. Would that be Jason Kidd? I Forgot he was with them then.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 09:59 PM
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Derek is definitely worthy of his retirement. The game was played differently back when they played for the Mavs. Not really sure if Dirks teams could have beat them.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/09/18 10:05 PM
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i think he got the "announcer bump" like gruden did
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/10/18 01:52 AM
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Shawn Bradley's number should be next.
Yes, Harper deserves it.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/10/18 02:20 AM
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Shawn Bradley's number should be next. Uwe Konstantin Blab might have something to say about that.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/10/18 02:31 AM
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Sorry. Harp was a nice player and a good compliment to Rolando back in the day, but when compared with his peers he was just a better than average defense minded point guard. Never chosen to an All Star team or was even seriously considered. Nice guy. Long career. But I wouldn't have put his jersey in the rafters.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/10/18 02:40 AM
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As a huge Nav fam I kinda think Dorks is the only one whose number should be retired. Even their championship year they won with a bunch of really good role players, not superstars. Wut
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/10/18 05:02 AM
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He was on that Moody Madness team. Fans and management look fondly on players who were a part of that. Probably why Brad Davis has the color commentator job.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/10/18 06:16 AM
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As a huge Nav fam I kinda think Dorks is the only one whose number should be retired. Even their championship year they won with a bunch of really good role players, not superstars. Wut I wasn't wearing my glasses.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/10/18 12:47 PM
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Is there not a jersey for Roy Tarpley?
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/10/18 02:17 PM
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Derek Harper, yes, one heck of a good Maverick, and "still" part of the organization.
I'd surmise whether he was so good that he deserves a retired jersey, the Mavs organization felt the arena needed another jersey to be hoisted up.
They probably didn't want to wait 2-10 more years for Dirk's to rise.
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Re: Derek Harper ?
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01/10/18 02:46 PM
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Mark Aguirre should be in there somewhere. That guy could score at will seemed like. yep he could adapt to anything Mavs 1st threat also
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