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#12554811 - 12/28/17 06:01 PM How not to pull your boat out of the water.
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I watched a guy at Fayette last week pulling his boat out. He was driving some kind of front wheel drive intermediate SUV. When he started out, he floor boarded the gas pedal and smoked his tires for at least a full minute before he stsrted to move up the ramp. When you give too much power to the wheels and they spin, you aren't helping matters. Give it a slow throttle and be patient. Smoking the tires make you look foolish.
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#12554887 - 12/28/17 06:57 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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FWD doesn't help either.

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#12561614 - 01/02/18 04:54 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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Very true.
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#12564152 - 01/04/18 01:43 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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It's probably the first time he got to experience "smoking the tires". Give em a break.
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#12590541 - 01/22/18 02:30 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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Bet that was interesting to watch, especially if it was at Oak Thicket. That ramp is a drop off!
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#12590593 - 01/22/18 02:53 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: Samsonsworld]
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Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
FWD doesn't help either.


I would hazard a guess that a front wheel drive has more weight over the drive wheels than a rear wheel drive does.

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#12590634 - 01/22/18 03:09 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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Going up a ramp, or just taking off quickly, the weight shifts to the rear of the vehicle. Between that and torque steer, I am not a fan of fwd.

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#12591188 - 01/22/18 08:25 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: redchevy]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
FWD doesn't help either.


I would hazard a guess that a front wheel drive has more weight over the drive wheels than a rear wheel drive does.
yep.....and they apply more pressure to the wheels when in reverse also! roflmao

Do you understand "weight transfer"? There is a reason John Forces funny car isn't FWD.....you do know that, right?
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#12591197 - 01/22/18 08:28 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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Ridgeline?

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#12591753 - 01/23/18 08:52 AM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: SteezMacQueen]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
FWD doesn't help either.


I would hazard a guess that a front wheel drive has more weight over the drive wheels than a rear wheel drive does.
yep.....and they apply more pressure to the wheels when in reverse also! roflmao

Do you understand "weight transfer"? There is a reason John Forces funny car isn't FWD.....you do know that, right?


Have never heard of John force nor do I care too. We aren’t or at least I’m not launching off the line pulling my boat up the ramp weight transfer is minimal. With the weight of the driveline over the front axle I bet it still has more traction. It’s real easy to hammer down and spin a rear wheel drive too.

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#12591886 - 01/23/18 09:54 AM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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I understand what you're saying in theory but that has not been my real world experience. Every FWD I've ever driven would spin the wheels easier than a RWD..and that's on a flat surface without trailer weight on the rear.

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#12591902 - 01/23/18 10:06 AM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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My experiences have been quite the opposite. Light in the rear pickups spin easily. Again when your spinning the tires in the FWD I assume your were giving it quite a bit of throttle. Apply slowly. I regret to admit it... but I have pulled a few trailers with FWD vehicles and have launched a few boats with FWD vehicles, they work as fine as a car could for the task at hand, traction was not a problem, but suspension was pretty lacking.

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#12591938 - 01/23/18 10:21 AM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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Pickups have twice the torque and the rear tires often end up in the water/moss/reeds. They can spin, too...BUT for different reasons, imo.

But since I don't know of any FWD pickups, I think it would be more fair to compare a SUVs.

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#12591946 - 01/23/18 10:28 AM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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I don't know I used a diesel jetta with a 5 speed and a ford focus with a 5 speed to pull a couple jon boats and a 14-foot glass boat.

All the wet/moss aside more weight is more traction. The guy smoked the tires because he put the hammer down, just like would happen in a RWD truck. Gentle steady throttle application and neither would have spun a turn.

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#12596254 - 01/26/18 08:40 AM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: redchevy]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Originally Posted By: redchevy
Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
FWD doesn't help either.


I would hazard a guess that a front wheel drive has more weight over the drive wheels than a rear wheel drive does.
yep.....and they apply more pressure to the wheels when in reverse also! roflmao

Do you understand "weight transfer"? There is a reason John Forces funny car isn't FWD.....you do know that, right?


Have never heard of John force nor do I care too. We aren’t or at least I’m not launching off the line pulling my boat up the ramp weight transfer is minimal. With the weight of the driveline over the front axle I bet it still has more traction. It’s real easy to hammer down and spin a rear wheel drive too.



With the weight of the trailer and boat on the rear bumper, the FWD has a reverse weight transfer. More on the rear wheels and less on the front wheels.

The guy I posted about just stayed on the throttle and smoked the tires till you could not see the vehicle. He did eventually pull it out, but he took a few miles off the life of the tires.
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#12596312 - 01/26/18 09:13 AM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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Sure I know.

Go run your vehicle over a set of scales and find out how much weight is ont he front and rear axles. Pulling something like a boat with little tongue weight it will still have probably significantly more weight on the front axle than the rear. What do you think weighs more the engine and transmission of a car or your boats tongue weight?

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#12599953 - 01/29/18 08:21 AM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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Originally Posted By: ChuChu1
I watched a guy at Fayette last week pulling his boat out. He was driving some kind of front wheel drive intermediate SUV. When he started out, he floor boarded the gas pedal and smoked his tires for at least a full minute before he stsrted to move up the ramp. When you give too much power to the wheels and they spin, you aren't helping matters. Give it a slow throttle and be patient. Smoking the tires make you look foolish.

One of the funniest and yet saddest towing incidents I ever saw was at Fayette. A guy in a brand new decked out suburban was backing down the park ramp and got his trailer off the edge of the ramp. He high centered the trailer on the ramp and got stuck (two wheel drive). He eventually asked someone’s help and they hooked a tow strap to the front suspension, only to yank off the entire ground effects setup going up the ramp. That was probably a $2500 yank.
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#12602691 - 01/30/18 04:17 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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I have pictures of a guy launching a sailboat with a diesel Ford pickup. For whatever reason he backed too far down the ramp and when the sailboat slid off the trailer, the bed of the truck floated and the truck was slipping on down the ramp. He was standing in water almost to the window of the truck trying to hold it from going deeper. Someone finally got a chain and hooked to him and pulled the truck out. The diesel engine never died and was still running. The pics I have show the exhaust bubbling in the water. This happened at Park Prairie ramp at Fayette.
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#12602693 - 01/30/18 04:18 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: redchevy]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
Sure I know.

Go run your vehicle over a set of scales and find out how much weight is ont he front and rear axles. Pulling something like a boat with little tongue weight it will still have probably significantly more weight on the front axle than the rear. What do you think weighs more the engine and transmission of a car or your boats tongue weight?


It's all in the leverage. He was pulling a full sized bass boat.


Edited by ChuChu1 (01/30/18 04:19 PM)
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#12602753 - 01/30/18 04:58 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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#12602754 - 01/30/18 05:00 PM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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#12632655 - 02/17/18 08:42 AM Re: How not to pull your boat out of the water. [Re: ChuChu1]
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Years ago, used to set up a couple of chairs at Elephant Butte Lake and it never failed to be entertaining. There are a lot of people walking around us with no brains or sense. The ramp is wide and long at the state park, even saw fisticuffs a time or two....

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