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#12551341 - 12/25/17 05:30 PM Larger baits vs smaller baits debate
craigfish Offline
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Registered: 01/02/11
Posts: 192
Loc: West Tx.
When targeting larger fish outside the spawn what is your opinion regarding using primarily larger lures? Our home lake is a highly pressured, gin clear, extremely tough lake. You have to just about use a folded $100 bill as a trailer to get a bite on a jig there. They just don’t eat it good. We’ve all heard Lg. baits = Lg. fish -but even on super tough water? My fishing partner and I have an ongoing debate: he is a large bait guy (Jigs, swimbaits, glide baits etc.) and I’m more of a finesse guy (4 inch worms, Ned rigs etc.). I always want to scale down and he always wants to scale up. His philosophy is obviously big baits get big bites not dink bites. My philosophy is I wanna give em an easy meal they can slurp up with little or no effort. Results haven’t really been that great either way on our lake – again outside of the spawn. Opinions?

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#12551360 - 12/25/17 06:01 PM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: craigfish]
Doug R. Offline
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#12551374 - 12/25/17 06:13 PM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: Doug R.]
lconn4 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Doug R.
Live Bait


Big ones! roflmao
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#12551380 - 12/25/17 06:30 PM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: craigfish]
YAKaddict Offline
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Loc: Plano
I believe big baits catch bigger fish just not numbers. I also believe certain baits get bigger bites but i dont know anything , my boat only goes 30 mphs

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#12551382 - 12/25/17 06:33 PM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: craigfish]
Brad R Offline
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Registered: 03/09/15
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Loc: Texas
Panfish anglers rarely go out and avoid hooking up with a few bass, some of decent size. I have caught up to 4 lbs. bass on a #7 jig head hook and 2 lbs. braid.

The issue is if you are fishing anywhere near structure, they can wrap you up quickly. Spinning tackle isn't very conducive to over-powering fish so it can be problematic.

But, small baits work great. On the other hand, who hasn't seen a minnow-sized bass hanging off one of the 14" big swimbaits. Ha!

It goes both ways: big fish on small baits; small fish on big baits.

Brad

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#12551415 - 12/25/17 07:10 PM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: YAKaddict]
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Originally Posted By: YAKaddict
I believe big baits catch bigger fish just not numbers. I also believe certain baits get bigger bites but i dont know anything , my boat only goes 30 mphs
you need a faster boat to catch bigger fish.

Haha.

Little baits/ big baits (within reason) catch all sizes. Of course a Huddleston isn't gonna catch too many small fish.
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#12551429 - 12/25/17 07:27 PM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: craigfish]
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I have caught big fish from crappie jigs to 10XDs-12" baits, just have to fish the climates at hand.
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#12551466 - 12/25/17 08:16 PM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: craigfish]
stitch Offline
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I’ve caught my 2 biggest bass on a 1/4 oz spinner bait. I have caught good fish on big baits as well. I will continue to use both

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#12551480 - 12/25/17 08:26 PM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: craigfish]
Donald Harper Offline
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It is not the size of the bait within reason as mentioned. It is about getting on feeding fish and using a bait within reason that has all the things that Big Bass are looking for. Your parts are the key. The clearer the water the more important it is to get it all put together to make that bait as real as possible.
- Sight: Match everything form the size and species that they are feeding on to the colors they are feeding on. That can be anything from Bait fish of all kinds, Crayfish, small snakes and any other critter that comes off the bank which introduces some top water action.
- Sound: It must be putting out the right tune as it moves through the water. Sometimes that is subtle and sometimes it is loud.
- Vibration: It must have the right thump to bring them to the bait and that goes both ways also.
- Smell and Taste: I am big on scent and want the bait leaving a trail of scent. I want that scent to be as natural to what they are use to eating as possible. The three most natural are Minnow, Night Crawler and Crayfish. It absolutely comes into play with masking the human odor and gives you that extra second as they hold on longer.

Are these the little things that matter? No, they are the big things that sew up the deal.
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#12551573 - 12/25/17 10:48 PM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: YAKaddict]
Marooned Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
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Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: YAKaddict
I believe big baits catch bigger fish just not numbers. I also believe certain baits get bigger bites but i dont know anything , my boat only goes 30 mphs

I must know less than you - my boat tops out at about 25mph.
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#12551584 - 12/25/17 10:59 PM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: Marooned]
YAKaddict Offline
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Registered: 11/02/14
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Loc: Plano
Originally Posted By: Marooned
Originally Posted By: YAKaddict
I believe big baits catch bigger fish just not numbers. I also believe certain baits get bigger bites but i dont know anything , my boat only goes 30 mphs

I must know less than you - my boat tops out at about 25mph.

Put racing stripes on your boat, that instantly adds 5 mphs

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#12551720 - 12/26/17 08:04 AM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: craigfish]
Jaret Latta Online   content
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High pressure + clear water = fish at night..... problem solved for targeting big bass since that's most likely when they are feeding

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#12551732 - 12/26/17 08:17 AM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: Donald Harper]
stitch Offline
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Registered: 04/07/15
Posts: 26
Something I was wondering on the scent, do minnows and shad smell the same? I’m just wondering because it seems like bass eat more shad than minnows. I’m not being a smart butt, I am genuinely wanting to know.

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#12551763 - 12/26/17 08:42 AM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: craigfish]
daddystog Offline
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Registered: 09/27/09
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Loc: Cisco,Tx
2 of the last 3 Sharelunker size Bass ( between 13 and 14 lbs ) caught out of our local lake were caught on crappie jigs in January, watched someone in a little Pelican 1 man boat battle a giant right off the end of my dock, he caught on a Zebco 33 trolling for sandbass with a 2" yellow jig
and it's like yours Gin clear water most of the time
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#12552222 - 12/26/17 05:01 PM Re: Larger baits vs smaller baits debate [Re: craigfish]
TEXASJIGSTER Offline
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Registered: 02/01/11
Posts: 160
Loc: CADDO LAKE
hmmm

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