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#12543457 - 12/19/17 09:55 AM Grapevine Robbery
George Tabone Offline
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Registered: 05/06/14
Posts: 62
On the night of December 8th 3 men illegally entered Silverlake Marina and robbed multiple boats. Unfortunately mine was one of them. They stole 15 Shimano reels (Curado, Calcutta), several G Loomis, Shimano, and Castaway rods as well as almost every soft bait and most hard baits I own. In addition, they cut the ropes to my boat cover rendering it useless. If anyone becomes aware of fishing gear for sale that might match the description above, please inform me, Silverlake or Grapevine police. Any help would be appreciated. Like most of you, I work hard to obtain and maintain my fishing gear and these degenerates have taken it all from me. Thanks again. George Tabone

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#12543469 - 12/19/17 09:58 AM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: George Tabone]
gar1970 Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 04/23/11
Posts: 1431
Loc: southwest more west than south...
Get a rope i hate thieves
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#12543476 - 12/19/17 10:00 AM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: George Tabone]
Mr. Incredible Offline
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Registered: 05/27/14
Posts: 137
Mr. George, I hope you get everything back and that the thieves get what’s coming to them. Keel hauling comes to mind.

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#12543494 - 12/19/17 10:07 AM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: George Tabone]
fouzman Offline
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Sorry to hear that, but the boats weren't robbed. They were burglarized.
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#12543497 - 12/19/17 10:08 AM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: fouzman]
George Tabone Offline
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Registered: 05/06/14
Posts: 62
You are correct

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#12543505 - 12/19/17 10:11 AM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: George Tabone]
JJ4MEL Offline
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Registered: 01/21/09
Posts: 1138
Loc: Celina/Prosper, TX
This sucks to hear!! Craigslist will be watched so I would suggest checking on a few local pawn shops in the next week.

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#12543584 - 12/19/17 11:01 AM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: George Tabone]
LearnedHat Online   content
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Registered: 07/16/03
Posts: 459
Sorry to hear it. You think they would have cameras operating all over that place.

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#12543621 - 12/19/17 11:15 AM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: George Tabone]
George Tabone Offline
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Registered: 05/06/14
Posts: 62
They have cameras and got some facial views and a shot of the car but could not make out the license plate. A better question is where was the security guard that is supposed to be there?

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#12543735 - 12/19/17 12:12 PM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: George Tabone]
LearnedHat Online   content
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Registered: 07/16/03
Posts: 459
Have they released the videos anywhere? Haven't seen anything on the news.

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#12543776 - 12/19/17 12:31 PM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: George Tabone]
Jon Online   content
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Registered: 10/11/01
Posts: 4774
Loc: Mesquite, TX
George, I'm sure sorry to hear about getting your stuff stolen and I hope Grapevine PD takes more of an interest in this case than some other DFW area departments do.

I realize they have more urgent things to do like tracking down murder suspects, rapists and child molestors but I sure do get tired of hearing when someone has stolen my stuff: "Look, you have to realize this doesn't work like CSI and stuff you see on TV" that's frustrating after about the 3rd time you've heard that from different departments.

They need to just make it legal to kill on sight when anyone is caught stealing your stuff like it used to be 150 years ago. Your gear has already been turned into meth for pennies on the $ and put into someone's arm, or smoked in a pipe. Once in a blue moon, this stuff has a good ending though. Any video you can get your hands on and then posted all over social media is your best shot. Most people hate thieves as much as you and I do.
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#12543786 - 12/19/17 12:39 PM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: Jon]
Gamblinman Offline
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Registered: 11/26/02
Posts: 3194
Loc: Yantis, TX
Originally Posted By: Jon
They need to just make it legal to kill on sight when anyone is caught stealing your stuff like it used to be 150 years ago.


You have that right in TX. Texas penal code contains a provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft from escaping with the property".

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#12543807 - 12/19/17 12:53 PM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: Gamblinman]
Jon Online   content
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Loc: Mesquite, TX
Originally Posted By: Gamblinman
Originally Posted By: Jon
They need to just make it legal to kill on sight when anyone is caught stealing your stuff like it used to be 150 years ago.


You have that right in TX. Texas penal code contains an unusual provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft from escaping with the property".

Did they change the part about "during the night time"?
I get the point, but I'm talking about where the sheriff used to come out and talk to you, you tell him what happened and he says "well I guess they won't be doing that anymore"

Not the part like it is now where Grandma gets interviewed by Shaun Rabb for the nightly news report and she says "But he was such a good boy, he didn't deserve to die like that. Then the local DA decides to bring it to the grand jury, and they decide to make an example of this vigilante justice and you wind up taking a second mortgage out on your house to defend yourself in the criminal trial first and then in the civil trial after grandma and the rest of the family testify to a jury of her peers how you've deprived all his different baby momma kids from their daddy who was such a goot boy and didn't deserve to die like that. That's the part i want to see changed.
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Originally Posted By: roadtrip
In the south, pretty much any fish that doesn't get bigger than a pound or so is called a perch. For some reason, this drives some people crazy.


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#12543810 - 12/19/17 12:55 PM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: George Tabone]
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Registered: 11/05/15
Posts: 259
Loc: Mesquite, Tx
HATE to hear this I will keep my eyes open
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#12543822 - 12/19/17 01:00 PM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: Jon]
LearnedHat Online   content
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Registered: 07/16/03
Posts: 459
Originally Posted By: Jon
Originally Posted By: Gamblinman
Originally Posted By: Jon
They need to just make it legal to kill on sight when anyone is caught stealing your stuff like it used to be 150 years ago.


You have that right in TX. Texas penal code contains an unusual provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft from escaping with the property".

Did they change the part about "during the night time"?
I get the point, but I'm talking about where the sheriff used to come out and talk to you, you tell him what happened and he says "well I guess they won't be doing that anymore"

Not the part like it is now where Grandma gets interviewed by Shaun Rabb for the nightly news report and she says "But he was such a good boy, he didn't deserve to die like that. Then the local DA decides to bring it to the grand jury, and they decide to make an example of this vigilante justice and you wind up taking a second mortgage out on your house to defend yourself in the criminal trial first and then in the civil trial after grandma and the rest of the family testify to a jury of her peers how you've deprived all his different baby momma kids from their daddy who was such a goot boy and didn't deserve to die like that. That's the part i want to see changed.


There are a lot of other obstacles in using this as a defense. If you shoot someone fleeing the marina with your fishing tackle, even if at night, you may be exonerated but it is not going to be smooth sailing.

The weird thing is:

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.



It is poorly written --- look how it seems have "nighttime" modify both "theft" and "criminal mischief" but not "burglary" --- always thought that was strange.

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#12543866 - 12/19/17 01:31 PM Re: Grapevine Robbery [Re: LearnedHat]
Jon Online   content
TFF Team Angler

Registered: 10/11/01
Posts: 4774
Loc: Mesquite, TX
Originally Posted By: LearnedHat
Originally Posted By: Jon
Originally Posted By: Gamblinman
Originally Posted By: Jon
They need to just make it legal to kill on sight when anyone is caught stealing your stuff like it used to be 150 years ago.


You have that right in TX. Texas penal code contains an unusual provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft from escaping with the property".

Did they change the part about "during the night time"?
I get the point, but I'm talking about where the sheriff used to come out and talk to you, you tell him what happened and he says "well I guess they won't be doing that anymore"

Not the part like it is now where Grandma gets interviewed by Shaun Rabb for the nightly news report and she says "But he was such a good boy, he didn't deserve to die like that. Then the local DA decides to bring it to the grand jury, and they decide to make an example of this vigilante justice and you wind up taking a second mortgage out on your house to defend yourself in the criminal trial first and then in the civil trial after grandma and the rest of the family testify to a jury of her peers how you've deprived all his different baby momma kids from their daddy who was such a goot boy and didn't deserve to die like that. That's the part i want to see changed.


There are a lot of other obstacles in using this as a defense. If you shoot someone fleeing the marina with your fishing tackle, even if at night, you may be exonerated but it is not going to be smooth sailing.

The weird thing is:

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.



It is poorly written --- look how it seems have "nighttime" modify both "theft" and "criminal mischief" but not "burglary" --- always thought that was strange.

Yes. Exactly. I want to see all that changed up to where it's cut and dried, not ambiguous or confusing.
It'll never happen but that doesn't keep me from wishing it would. There's no way in hell I'd risk killing someone now days the way the law is currently written over stealing my stuff unless my life or the lives of others were in danger. There was a time in the long past when we didn't have to worry about that and a lot less stuff got stolen - at least not by the same repeat offenders a lot of the time.
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Originally Posted By: roadtrip
In the south, pretty much any fish that doesn't get bigger than a pound or so is called a perch. For some reason, this drives some people crazy.


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