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#12525723 - 12/03/17 08:05 PM Buggers
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I Can't get enough of these. Seems to catch almost anything in freshwater. Most are on size 6 mustad streamer hook. Did a few on the same hook in a size 10 and 16.

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#12526417 - 12/04/17 11:50 AM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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#12526533 - 12/04/17 01:06 PM Re: Buggers [Re: Linecaster]
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Originally Posted By: Linecaster
Lots of happy fishing promised

The blacks, olives and chartreuses have been pretty deadly on a variety of fish, but it seems one day they like the more muted olives and blacks and the next the chartreuse. I decided to tie some additional colors to see how they do.

I also ordered more supplies, different colors of chennile, marabou, different beads, tungsten thread, etc. I'm going all in on Buggers!

This redear went for the chartreuse and black minutes ago. My biggest I'm thinking so far.

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#12526605 - 12/04/17 01:58 PM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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Me too. I'm a big fan of the wooly bugger and chartreuse n black. I never thought about using chartreuse hackle.


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#12526912 - 12/04/17 06:15 PM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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Tried the yellow hackle one this afternoon and it worked as well as the chartreuse. Got a tilapia along with several channel cats and one bass.

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#12527407 - 12/05/17 07:46 AM Re: Buggers [Re: fishr3]
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Originally Posted By: fishr3
Me too. I'm a big fan of the wooly bugger and chartreuse n black. I never thought about using chartreuse hackle.





I have hackle in a lot of colors mainly for tying some salt water patterns. I thought why not try some as bugger hackle instead of the usual grizzly.

What do you like to weight yours with? Seems like I donít do as well with the ones weighted with wrapped wire. The beaded ones do better for me and I really like the tungsten beads for getting them down in a hurry.

Most Iíve done on size 6 hooks. Iíve done a few size 10. Iím thinking of doing some size 8 and 12. Do you have a favorite size? Iíve been using Mustad R73-9671 hooks and like those.

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#12528635 - 12/06/17 08:08 AM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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I'm wrapping a bit of lead wire behind the bead head and trying to get a more balanced fly so they don't sink vertically, but I don't want to get so much weight that the fly doesn't suspend after being stripped. I prefer bead head buggers cause I don't like waiting for an unweighted bugger to sink before starting a strip retrieve.

I recently tied some fly/jigs using slotted tungsten beads and jig hooks (black n yellow). No need to add lead wire with the tungsten bead.

Buggers without the bead head seem good for for use in shallow water or for fishing over grass beds.

I use all types of weight - lead wire, bead head, bead chain, and dumbell.



My favorite size is a #10 -2x strong 3x long streamer hook for crappie and pan fish, but I use larger #8 or #6 hooks for bass.

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#12528649 - 12/06/17 08:17 AM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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I havenít tried the slotted tungsten beads. Do they fit both 90 and 60 degree jig hooks?

Iím a big believer in tungsten for getting a fly down fast. Because itís twice as dense as lead, it really gets down faster using less weight than lead. In fly fishing, extra weight is an enemy

http://www.manictackleproject.com/flyfishingarticlesinkrateofnymphsinrivers/

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#12530102 - 12/07/17 09:27 AM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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Do they fit both 90 and 60 degree jig hooks?
I don't know, but I would assume the slotted beads will fit both 90 and 60 degree hooks. My first attempt at sizing and selecting a slotted tungsten bead failed. They were too big for the #10 - 60 degree hooks I ordered. I just added thread wraps at the hook eye to stop the bead from sliding over the hook eye. I will probably order some larger hooks and smaller beads and see if I can get a better fit.

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#12530338 - 12/07/17 12:01 PM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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The 3/16 ď countersunk tungsten beads fit the size 6 mustad streamer hooks well and are borderline too big for the size 10 hooks. Iíve been using the 3/16Ē tungsten beads on mustad duratin 60 degree size 2 and 4 jig hooks for a saltwater shrimp I use. I have to bend the barb down to fit them past it.

I want to downsize my tungsten beads some when I get around to tying some more buggers. That lets me downsize my fly rod to a lighter line weight and still be able to cast them easily. I can cast the 3/16Ē tungsten beaded buggers with my 4/5 and 5/6 weight CGRs, but not as great as I like and really not great with the longer leaders I like to use. I really like both rods on the lake and my ideal set up would include one or the other with the size 6 buggers sporting slightly smaller beads.

The countersunk beads are good for the streamer hooks, but Iím wanting to do some crappie jigs before spring. Iíd rather do them in tungsten slotted and colored beads than in lead just so I can use the lighter rods.

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#12531979 - 12/08/17 05:19 PM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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Hey, what was the yellow foam looking tail?
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#12532447 - 12/09/17 09:13 AM Re: Buggers [Re: WillieRip]
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Originally Posted By: WillieRip
Hey, what was the yellow foam looking tail?


http://globalflyfisher.com/tie-better/inexpensive-materials

Scroll down and you will see them.

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#12533033 - 12/09/17 08:45 PM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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Buggers work on redfish, but not very well. I got a red each on the chartreuse and the yellow hackle black tail version, but saw a red pass on one. It wasnít until I put on something normal like a redfish crack and shrimp fly did the Fish really turn on.

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#12533036 - 12/09/17 08:48 PM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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The fish that ate the Buggers

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#12534349 - 12/11/17 08:51 AM Re: Buggers [Re: WillieRip]
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Originally Posted By: WillieRip
Hey, what was the yellow foam looking tail?


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#12542081 - 12/18/17 08:08 AM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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Tried the chartreuse and black size 6 tungsten beaded Bugger yesterday for an hour. Couldn't find any bass or catfish, but did run into a few nice suhfish


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#12544235 - 12/19/17 06:10 PM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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I can't have too many of these. Daughter suggested pink hackle. I downsized the tungsten bead and chennile to be 4/5 weight friendly.

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#12545544 - 12/20/17 06:37 PM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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Lots of fish all on purple Bugger.

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#12548405 - 12/22/17 08:10 PM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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Smoked three turkey breasts on the egg. That gave me a chance to cast off the dock while keeping an eye on the fire. Windy as sin, but fish have to eat. Cypress needles a rd piling up in drifts in the wind.


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#12552301 - 12/26/17 06:45 PM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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Low and slow bass off the dock with a black and purple Bugger. Right at last light. Water is pretty chilly.

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#12555485 - 12/29/17 07:23 AM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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I'm not sure why, but I thought slotted beads went onto the hook slotted side to the hook eye. I finally figured out why the slotted beads were covering the hook eye. I was putting them on backwards! I managed to get an 1/8" slotted tungsten bead on a #8 jig hook after mashing the barb down. Hoping the bigger hook helps catch more crappie and bass.


Edited by fishr3 (12/29/17 07:24 AM)

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#12555502 - 12/29/17 07:47 AM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
karstopo Offline
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That jig looks very fishy. I just got in some slotted beads yesterday. I put 4 of the biggest ones I got, 3/16", to use on some size 4 shrimp for the salt. I still had to mash down the barb so I'm not sure about the point of having a slot unless it makes it easier to go over the bend of the hook. The slot did fit nicely on the 60 degree bend by the hook eye so maybe that's why they make them. I like the color options, too.

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#12561729 - 01/02/18 06:29 PM Re: Buggers [Re: karstopo]
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Crappie on a purple Bugger.

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