It came out of this virgin pond out in the woods that no one ever fishes. Literally the second your bait hits the water either a giant bass or crappie nails it. But we were fishing for crappie with minnows and ended up catching giant gills the whole time. This was the biggest, the picture doesn't do it justice, this thing looked like a dinner plate in real life. Must of been warm because we almost stepped on a pygmy rattlesnake on the long walk out there. Sad this property is selling to some dallas people so i won't be able to go back unless i can get a chance this week.