The last few times I have been out, I have had to downsize to a #2 Mepps to catch fish. Normally this time of year the shad are bigger and #4 works well. There seems to have been one or two more shad spawns on the lake this year. When the tiny shad are around, it's easy pickens for the fish. They don't have to chase the larger, faster shad. This is what I normally see in August and September, but here it is November and the lake is still full of the small shad. Even with the #2 it takes a lot of finesse to trigger a bite - just the right speed, at just the right angle into a good sized school of fish.