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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/07/17 07:14 PM
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Tough crowd, couldn't imagine how you'd really make fun of me if you saw me fishing with my Snoopy reels.
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/07/17 07:24 PM
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Ha! We have a few anti-ford fascists around here. I was trying to back you right up until that last post. You are now on your own.
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/07/17 08:29 PM
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As is the case with a lot of specialty vehicles, you can get the same performance cheaper by building that kind of vehicle than buying one new.
For the price of the SRT10 viper truck when new, I could easily build a 408 LSX engine with a twin turbo set up, T6060/T56 transmission, drop it in to an s10 or Colorado/canyon truck, C6ZO6 IRS rear end with a LSD and quick change diff, add some carbon fiber/fiber glass body pannels and absolutely wool up on the SRT10 RAM and still have cash left over.
Same thing with the SVT F150 Raptor. With SEMA fighting for your right federally behind the scenes, there are actually very few bolt on aftermarket modification that you can install on you new vehicle that will void your factory warranty. Shoot, a pro charger blower will not void your factory warranty as long as its carb complient and certified.
Im a GM guy. But the eco boost family of engines I love, late model Scorpion 6.7 powerstroke engine are amazing, and the power plants that Mazda is developing as wall as an Australian company are developing really apart my interest.
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/07/17 10:16 PM
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No arguments about what kind of toys you could build with 70k but still not a factory production vehicle. Oh as as far as Fords Power Stroke goes that's what I traded in. Had it 5 years and over 80k miles without an issue. Dang thing could probably rip the lid off of he!! with a big enough chain.
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/07/17 10:21 PM
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You will like the truck. Everything else on here are opinions and we all know that everyone has one...
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/08/17 02:44 AM
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You will like the truck. Everything else on here are opinions and we all know that everyone has one... yep, CR has one too. Tundra rated 85 out of 100 on reliability and Ford 47. I have owned 8 Fords and all but one was in the the shop for something before logging 50k on odo.
2200 Bay Champ/200 Mercury Optimax 2017 Tundra TSS 4x4 Crewmax 5.7L
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/08/17 02:59 AM
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On my 10th Ford and had two in prior to 50k. One for a belt tension pulley, squealed on start up. One for a recall on the locks.
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/08/17 03:02 AM
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And last poll I looked at, Ford and Chevy beat Toyota in reliability.
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/08/17 03:03 AM
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Yea if you want to win Baja with a warranty, buy a raptor. Lets not forget about the bending of the frame behind the cab designed IN the structure of the truck to save your $20K shocks.
450hp, thats cute. I can get that with a tune out of a 6.2 GM engine, 550HP with just a tune on an LBZ Duramax, no warranty voided, and I still have a usable truck. I can build a raptor level truck from any other manufacturer with out voiding the warranty for less that the price of a raptor. Personally, I dont care about the exclusivity. I would much rather be proud that I built it and didnt buy it. I was under the impression that newer GM, Ford and Dodge vehicles recorded changes to parameters and would deny a warranty claim if found. Please explain how you make changes without leaving a footprint.
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/08/17 07:08 PM
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Yea if you want to win Baja with a warranty, buy a raptor. Lets not forget about the bending of the frame behind the cab designed IN the structure of the truck to save your $20K shocks.
450hp, thats cute. I can get that with a tune out of a 6.2 GM engine, 550HP with just a tune on an LBZ Duramax, no warranty voided, and I still have a usable truck. I can build a raptor level truck from any other manufacturer with out voiding the warranty for less that the price of a raptor. Personally, I dont care about the exclusivity. I would much rather be proud that I built it and didnt buy it. I was under the impression that newer GM, Ford and Dodge vehicles recorded changes to parameters and would deny a warranty claim if found. Please explain how you make changes without leaving a footprint. Magnuson Act states that they have to directly link the mod to the failure. I am sure the car manufacturers know ways around it if they want to.
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/08/17 07:12 PM
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Yea if you want to win Baja with a warranty, buy a raptor. Lets not forget about the bending of the frame behind the cab designed IN the structure of the truck to save your $20K shocks.
450hp, thats cute. I can get that with a tune out of a 6.2 GM engine, 550HP with just a tune on an LBZ Duramax, no warranty voided, and I still have a usable truck. I can build a raptor level truck from any other manufacturer with out voiding the warranty for less that the price of a raptor. Personally, I dont care about the exclusivity. I would much rather be proud that I built it and didnt buy it. I was under the impression that newer GM, Ford and Dodge vehicles recorded changes to parameters and would deny a warranty claim if found. Please explain how you make changes without leaving a footprint. Magnuson Act states that they have to directly link the mod to the failure. I am sure the car manufacturers know ways around it if they want to. I don't know how you could defend a tune, though. You are operating the engine outside it's normal parameters. If the engine fails, how would you know or prove that the tune didn't cause it? You are better off sticking with oem parts or equivalents throughout the warranty period imo. I've seen one tune that was a plug in under the hood that said it left no footprint but I think flashing the computer is a dead give away.
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/08/17 07:24 PM
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Yea if you want to win Baja with a warranty, buy a raptor. Lets not forget about the bending of the frame behind the cab designed IN the structure of the truck to save your $20K shocks.
450hp, thats cute. I can get that with a tune out of a 6.2 GM engine, 550HP with just a tune on an LBZ Duramax, no warranty voided, and I still have a usable truck. I can build a raptor level truck from any other manufacturer with out voiding the warranty for less that the price of a raptor. Personally, I dont care about the exclusivity. I would much rather be proud that I built it and didnt buy it. Lol, ill let you and your attorney defend that to the warranty people.
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/08/17 07:41 PM
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I'll say this much. I was a sales manager for a Ford dealership for about 7 years. Left it behind about 3 years ago. I know for fact on Fords and I'm almost certain all other manufacturers, if you plug in a tuner it will be recorded in the ecm and even after you remove it leaves a footprint. So when you have a drive train related issue the manufacturer knows. For all that think a dealer can side skirt this and do the customer right WRONG, dealers don't have a say in the matter. All vehicles have to be connected online and the manufacturer makes those decisions based on the data collected, not the dealers diagnosis. I personally witnessed it on a 2013 F250 Platinum. Customers custom pimped out truck was towed in. Airbag suspension, ton's of stereo equipment, wheels, tires and a fist sized whole in the side of the block with only 11k miles on the odometer. Ford denied warranty, customer threatened to sue. Ford provided proof of a tuner being plugged in and with that the customer couldn't find a lawyer within 500 miles that would take the case. Cost his dumb [censored] almost 20k for a new motor.
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/09/17 12:15 AM
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Re: Ford Raptor
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11/09/17 12:45 AM
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Good looking truck.
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