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#12488803 - 11/02/17 06:06 AM Ford Raptor
tmd11111 Offline
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Registered: 04/30/17
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Loc: San Angelo
Anyone on here own a Gen 2 Raptor? Just put a deposit on one and am picking it up Saturday. Was just wanting to know the good, bad, and ugly.

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#12488961 - 11/02/17 08:36 AM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: tmd11111]
Samsonsworld Offline
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You're going to have to let me test drive it to develop an opinion. grin

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#12488974 - 11/02/17 08:40 AM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: Samsonsworld]
tmd11111 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
You're going to have to let me test drive it to develop an opinion. grin


Crew Cab does 0-60 in 5.2 seconds. Sadly the wife wasn't impressed when she drove it yesterday. I guess she was expecting it to perform like her 2017 Mustang GT. I told her I'd gladly race her in the dirt

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#12490597 - 11/03/17 10:30 AM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: tmd11111]
redchevy Offline
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You put a deposit on a 60 or 70k + dollar truck and don't know the good bad and ugly yet?

Good = great off road
Bad = poor payload/weight carrying capacity
Ugly = cost

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#12490832 - 11/03/17 01:03 PM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: redchevy]
tmd11111 Offline
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Registered: 04/30/17
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Loc: San Angelo
Originally Posted By: redchevy
You put a deposit on a 60 or 70k + dollar truck and don't know the good bad and ugly yet?

Good = great off road
Bad = poor payload/weight carrying capacity
Ugly = cost


Actually I was just wanting to hear from any owners out there. Everyone local I've talked to loves them but one. His complaint was because its footprint is 6" wider then stock it tends to wander of some of our wonderful roads. Oh and the rear will sag with a pallet of feed.
Picking it up tomorrow morning.
Oh and the MSRP on this one is a little over 71k but no rape tax, most dealers are selling for 5-10k over msrp.


Edited by tmd11111 (11/03/17 01:14 PM)

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#12490848 - 11/03/17 01:13 PM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: tmd11111]
Samsonsworld Offline
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Be sure to share some pics!

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#12494260 - 11/06/17 12:37 PM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: tmd11111]
Stump jumper Offline
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Registered: 04/19/04
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Originally Posted By: tmd11111
Originally Posted By: redchevy
You put a deposit on a 60 or 70k + dollar truck and don't know the good bad and ugly yet?

Good = great off road
Bad = poor payload/weight carrying capacity
Ugly = cost


Actually I was just wanting to hear from any owners out there. Everyone local I've talked to loves them but one. His complaint was because its footprint is 6" wider then stock it tends to wander of some of our wonderful roads. Oh and the rear will sag with a pallet of feed.
Picking it up tomorrow morning.
Oh and the MSRP on this one is a little over 71k but no rape tax, most dealers are selling for 5-10k over msrp.
Could have bought a Tundra Pro for a lot less and got a better truck. Dealer offered me one at MSRP. I emailed him back and said that I do not pay MSRP for anything. He got a little touchy after that. I am not
sure what the Raptor has that you cannot add to a regular F150. I would think that like the Tundra you could build your own and have a better truck.
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#12494363 - 11/06/17 02:21 PM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: tmd11111]
Samsonsworld Offline
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Registered: 12/12/08
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Don't think the Tundra has a 450hp/510tq engine.

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#12494445 - 11/06/17 03:54 PM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: Stump jumper]
tmd11111 Offline
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Registered: 04/30/17
Posts: 780
Loc: San Angelo
Originally Posted By: Stump jumper
Originally Posted By: tmd11111
Originally Posted By: redchevy
You put a deposit on a 60 or 70k + dollar truck and don't know the good bad and ugly yet?

Good = great off road
Bad = poor payload/weight carrying capacity
Ugly = cost


Actually I was just wanting to hear from any owners out there. Everyone local I've talked to loves them but one. His complaint was because its footprint is 6" wider then stock it tends to wander of some of our wonderful roads. Oh and the rear will sag with a pallet of feed.
Picking it up tomorrow morning.
Oh and the MSRP on this one is a little over 71k but no rape tax, most dealers are selling for 5-10k over msrp.
Could have bought a Tundra Pro for a lot less and got a better truck. Dealer offered me one at MSRP. I emailed him back and said that I do not pay MSRP for anything. He got a little touchy after that. I am not
sure what the Raptor has that you cannot add to a regular F150. I would think that like the Tundra you could build your own and have a better truck.


You should probably do a little more research before jumping to conclusions. First off the Raptor is part of Fords SVT program and even though Ford cranks out about 700k trucks a year only 20k are Raptors a year are made. Simple supply and demand. Average selling price is about 5k over msrp and in bigger cities its about 10k. Currently used 17's bring MSRP at auction. Now that the exclusivity is out of the way lets talk about the truck itself. Little things like 14" of wheel travel, reinforced frame, 6" wider stance, 3" Fox shocks, 4.10 gears, 450HP/510tq, 0-60 in 5.1 sec. All with a factory warranty. Not knocking Toyota's feeble attempt with their TRD package but its mostly just shocks and decals. And FWIW I've owned several Toyota trucks and had problems with every single one of them. Not saying the fords I've owned are better but personally I've had less problems with them so I just dont see where Toyota's are better.


Edited by tmd11111 (11/06/17 03:56 PM)

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#12494449 - 11/06/17 03:58 PM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: Samsonsworld]
tmd11111 Offline
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Registered: 04/30/17
Posts: 780
Loc: San Angelo
Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
Be sure to share some pics!


I will as soon as I can figure out how to convert these iPhone pics with a silly file extension that don't work on here.

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#12495147 - 11/07/17 08:34 AM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: tmd11111]
diesel_Power_House Offline
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Registered: 04/10/15
Posts: 51
Loc: Mid cities, DFW
Yea if you want to win Baja with a warranty, buy a raptor. Let’s not forget about the bending of the frame behind the cab designed IN the structure of the truck to save your $20K shocks.

450hp, that’s cute. I can get that with a tune out of a 6.2 GM engine, 550HP with just a tune on an LBZ Duramax, no warranty voided, and I still have a usable truck. I can build a raptor level truck from any other manufacturer with out voiding the warranty for less that the price of a raptor. Personally, I don’t care about the exclusivity. I would much rather be proud that I built it and didn’t buy it.

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#12495235 - 11/07/17 09:46 AM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: tmd11111]
Samsonsworld Offline
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Registered: 12/12/08
Posts: 3557
Loc: Oeste Del Tejas
Because sometimes....waist high waders just aren't enough.


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#12495426 - 11/07/17 12:13 PM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: tmd11111]
Stump jumper Offline
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Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7975
Loc: Rockwall
Originally Posted By: tmd11111
Originally Posted By: Stump jumper
Originally Posted By: tmd11111
Originally Posted By: redchevy
You put a deposit on a 60 or 70k + dollar truck and don't know the good bad and ugly yet?

Good = great off road
Bad = poor payload/weight carrying capacity
Ugly = cost


Actually I was just wanting to hear from any owners out there. Everyone local I've talked to loves them but one. His complaint was because its footprint is 6" wider then stock it tends to wander of some of our wonderful roads. Oh and the rear will sag with a pallet of feed.
Picking it up tomorrow morning.
Oh and the MSRP on this one is a little over 71k but no rape tax, most dealers are selling for 5-10k over msrp.
Could have bought a Tundra Pro for a lot less and got a better truck. Dealer offered me one at MSRP. I emailed him back and said that I do not pay MSRP for anything. He got a little touchy after that. I am not
sure what the Raptor has that you cannot add to a regular F150. I would think that like the Tundra you could build your own and have a better truck.


You should probably do a little more research before jumping to conclusions. First off the Raptor is part of Fords SVT program and even though Ford cranks out about 700k trucks a year only 20k are Raptors a year are made. Simple supply and demand. Average selling price is about 5k over msrp and in bigger cities its about 10k. Currently used 17's bring MSRP at auction. Now that the exclusivity is out of the way lets talk about the truck itself. Little things like 14" of wheel travel, reinforced frame, 6" wider stance, 3" Fox shocks, 4.10 gears, 450HP/510tq, 0-60 in 5.1 sec. All with a factory warranty. Not knocking Toyota's feeble attempt with their TRD package but its mostly just shocks and decals. And FWIW I've owned several Toyota trucks and had problems with every single one of them. Not saying the fords I've owned are better but personally I've had less problems with them so I just dont see where Toyota's are better.
TRD Pro is a much different than a plain ole TRD OR. I will have to do some research because I had heard that the Raptor now had the 3.5 Eco Boost. Even with the higher trade in value I am still not sure that the Raptor is worth 70k. Trade in value only comes in to play when you sell. You can still take a TRD Pro (which has Fox remote res front and rear) and add a supercharger and some other goodies and save thousands.
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#12495447 - 11/07/17 12:27 PM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: tmd11111]
tmd11111 Offline
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Registered: 04/30/17
Posts: 780
Loc: San Angelo
But the Yota IMO has no where near as nice a ride or creature comforts.

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#12495481 - 11/07/17 12:57 PM Re: Ford Raptor [Re: tmd11111]
Samsonsworld Offline
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Registered: 12/12/08
Posts: 3557
Loc: Oeste Del Tejas
These are not the trucks you are looking for......


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