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#12472162 - 10/19/17 11:10 PM Fish identification: Striper, hybrid, or white bass?
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What bass is this?




Edited by Uncle Zeek (10/21/17 08:40 AM)
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#12472189 - 10/20/17 02:04 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Sand bass. Aka white bass.

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#12472209 - 10/20/17 05:06 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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My first impression is sandbass as well. But a closer photo sure would be nice to be 100% sure.

What lake were you fishing?
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#12472228 - 10/20/17 05:51 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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I was fishing Somerville, yea the photo isn't the best. Why would it not be a striped bass?

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#12472261 - 10/20/17 06:51 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Well, so far as I can tell, there's been no stripers stocked in Somerville, but it does get hybrids pretty regularly. Not sure if you're asking about stripers or hybrids.

Striped bass are far more elongated, with much more prominent stripes.

Hybrids are deep-bodied like sandbass, and generally have multiple darker (sometimes 'broken') stripes.

Sandbass tend to have one dark stripe and the others are lighter. But their eyes are larger in proportion to their body size than a hybrid usually is.

The key test is to check the center tooth patch. If it's triangular, it's a sandbass. If it's elongated and split, it's a hybrid.
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#12472262 - 10/20/17 06:51 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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#12472267 - 10/20/17 06:58 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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I have been catching several of the new crop of hybrids released into Somerville this year. That looks about the size so it could be a hybrid as well.


Edited by J-Moe (10/20/17 07:00 AM)

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#12472621 - 10/20/17 10:55 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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If in doubt and the fish is not 18 inches, toss back and repeat. Intel curve can be very costly not only in $ and cents but in our future game management !

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#12472633 - 10/20/17 11:09 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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I tossed him back but really didn't think it was a white but now I'm not so sure

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#12472766 - 10/20/17 12:44 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Sometimes it can be hard to tell when they are the size of a white bass. One of the best ways to properly identify the fish is by looking at its tongue. There is an off white/pale area that is call a "tongue patch". On white bass there will only be one small patch. On a hybrid or striper there will be two tongue patches that look almost like a deer foot print. I remember which is which by thinking white bass are small and only have one tongue patch, hybrids and stripers are bigger and have two tongue patches.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/fishing/freshwater-fishing/bass-identification


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#12472952 - 10/20/17 02:54 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Definitely white bass or sandbass
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#12472998 - 10/20/17 03:26 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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If it calmed down when you held it then it is a sandbass if it keeps fighting its a hybrid.

Best way is tongue patch!
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#12473487 - 10/21/17 04:03 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Hybrids is also known as wipers up north.

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#12473572 - 10/21/17 08:38 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Cigga, that's an awesome chart. Guys, I'm going to sticky this topic, as it's something that comes up on a regular basis and every new angler could use our help on fish identification.
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#12473580 - 10/21/17 08:45 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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It's a sandabass!
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#12473703 - 10/21/17 11:32 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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#12474438 - 10/21/17 10:42 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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#12475063 - 10/22/17 05:22 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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#12475086 - 10/22/17 05:42 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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how was the lake level?

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#12475179 - 10/22/17 07:22 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Its hard to tell but it does appear to be a white bass. But if it has really dark lines and a yellowish color it could also be a good sized yellow bass. A pic of a yellow bass should be added to the ID chart as well with the other 3 fish.

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#12475394 - 10/22/17 11:09 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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#12475473 - 10/23/17 06:42 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Sand Bass. Young Hybrids are very bright Colored fish. Some will have a blue tint to their backs. Fish pictured is very dull...."Sand" colored.


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#12477848 - 10/24/17 09:12 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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#12477864 - 10/24/17 09:28 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Originally Posted By: plk1122



Sandbass
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#12479116 - 10/25/17 09:45 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Does anyone have real tooth patch photos of a white vs hybrid?

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#12489485 - 11/02/17 01:40 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Never heard of Hybrids called 'Wipers' before. Interesting
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#12496352 - 11/08/17 07:57 AM Re: Fish identification: Striper, hybrid, or white bass? [Re: plk1122]
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Definitely a white bass

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#12497601 - 11/09/17 02:25 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: H2O Seeker]
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Never heard of Hybrids called 'Wipers' before. Interesting

They get "Wi" from white bass and the "pers" from stripers. Put it together and you get "Wipers".

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#12497636 - 11/09/17 06:15 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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A lot of folks in other states call them wipers. Threw me for a minute when I heard it the first time too. hmmm
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#12497673 - 11/09/17 07:25 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: H2O Seeker]
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Originally Posted By: H2O Seeker
Never heard of Hybrids called 'Wipers' before. Interesting


I work with a guy born and raised in Kansas. He asked me what we meant when we said “Hybrids”. When I told him he immediately called it a Wiper.

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#12497726 - 11/09/17 08:06 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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I was raised in Kansas, they have a number of things twisted and turned ! What else would one expect from a populous that clicks their heels together , hoping for a miracle !

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#12498415 - 11/09/17 05:39 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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There called Wipers in Colorado when I moved down here took me a bit to get used to Hybrid in fact I thought I was not find Hybrids when all along I was!
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#12498745 - 11/09/17 11:07 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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I'm still a little confused. What are these 2 above? Also is the tooth patch always accurate?

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#12498764 - 11/09/17 11:50 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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The tongue patch is 99% accurate. I’ve heard some guys are having trouble if the double patches on a hybrid are close together. Those Look like nice sand bass to me. I’d need to see the patches


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#12498969 - 11/10/17 08:24 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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I'm still a little confused. What are these 2 above? Also is the tooth patch always accurate?


The one laying on the deck is absolutely a hybrid. The you're holding looks like a sandbass, but hard to say for sure at that camera angle.

The green fish laying on it's side is dinner.
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#12499282 - 11/10/17 12:29 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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I will say, I've been looking at the tooth patch but i'm still worried. One fish had one patch that was oval-heart shaped (if that makes since), but the stripes looked more solid and had 3 or 4 going all the way to the tail, instead of just 1, so i let him go. I did keep him on the boat hoping to ask someone at the boat ramp to help me but no one was around (risky but i'm trying to learn).

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#12502691 - 11/13/17 07:50 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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is this a white patch??

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#12503173 - 11/14/17 10:02 AM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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Look at the TPWD rule book. A hybrid has two distinct tooth patches. A sandbass has a oval glob I will call one tooth patch. Is it possible to have a hybrid with one patch?? Might be possible, not sure.

If it is short and it looks like you have three lines to the tail, toss it back. conservative move!

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#12503403 - 11/14/17 01:10 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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In Iowa, they call them wipers instead of hybrids.
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#12507108 - 11/17/17 03:21 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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I downloaded your photo and enlarged it as much as I could. Unfortunately, there's not enough resolution on the photo to tell if the tooth patch is split. But I've circled the patch you should be looking at. On medium to keeper sized hybrids, you'll see a very distinct split or separate patches.

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#12509462 - 11/19/17 04:22 PM Re: Help identifiyg bass [Re: plk1122]
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This is a hybrid with 2 elongated tooth patch. Hope you guys can see it.

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#12511541 - 11/21/17 11:39 AM Re: Fish identification: Striper, hybrid, or white bass? [Re: plk1122]
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One more tongue patch for good measure, I just happened to think about this when I reeled it in. 7.85 LB fish.


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#12511945 - 11/21/17 05:57 PM Re: Fish identification: Striper, hybrid, or white bass? [Re: plk1122]
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Great pics guys, thank you.
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#12519756 - 11/28/17 11:12 PM Re: Fish identification: Striper, hybrid, or white bass? [Re: plk1122]
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What type of fish is this? White, Hybrid, or Striper? Caught at Lake Grapevine, 1.71lb. It was dark so I couldn't get too great of a picture.


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#12519768 - 11/29/17 12:17 AM Re: Fish identification: Striper, hybrid, or white bass? [Re: plk1122]
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#12520113 - 11/29/17 09:39 AM Re: Fish identification: Striper, hybrid, or white bass? [Re: Fishbonz]
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Thanks! That's a white bass, right? That's what I was leaning towards, but it was dark and I've never caught them before so I figured I'd ask and make sure.
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#12521196 - 11/30/17 08:42 AM Re: Fish identification: Striper, hybrid, or white bass? [Re: plk1122]
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I was taught that if the lines on the side are solid, its a sandie, broken lines are hybrids. Either way, here on Fork, they go in the livewell for fertilizer.

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#12526782 - 12/04/17 04:21 PM Re: Fish identification: Striper, hybrid, or white bass? [Re: Gamblinman]
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Not at all accurate unfortunately, sand bass have broken lines (including the lateral line sometimes). Catch Lake Lewisville sand bass and you'll have broken lines on every single fish. Wish we could tell from the lines though! It'd be super easy.

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#12527053 - 12/04/17 08:06 PM Re: Fish identification: Striper, hybrid, or white bass? [Re: plk1122]
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Definitely a sand bass because too stocky to be a striper and no broken stripes like a hybrid would have

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#12564827 - 01/04/18 09:49 PM Re: Fish identification: Striper, hybrid, or white bass? [Re: plk1122]
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