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#12457954 - 10/08/17 01:51 PM Why arenít people titling their motors ?
chas1 Offline
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Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 395
Loc: Stephenville tx.
Iím looking at a boat to buy and the seller has transferred the papers on the boat to himself, but he has not transferred the papers on the motor, so he tells me in Texas you donít have to Title a motor

Also if you were doing this shame on you I am also finding, Lots of people just take their plates to the courthouse and have them renewed or title it as a homemade trailer, which is illegal and lie.
I am running into this more and more, come on guys title this stuff

Signed
Fed up

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#12457987 - 10/08/17 02:16 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: chas1]
Cole P Offline
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Registered: 04/24/15
Posts: 92
Shame on you for coming on TFF just to pass judgment on others. Just Kidding. But, really.


Edited by Cole P (10/08/17 02:16 PM)

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#12457991 - 10/08/17 02:19 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: chas1]
ssmith Offline
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Registered: 11/22/07
Posts: 2925
Loc: scotland tx
in tx motors have to be titled to be able to be sold legally a lot of folks don't do because game wardens don't check the motor serial number on a lake stop.the reason some don't do it is because they don't want to pay taxes an registration on them.

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#12458006 - 10/08/17 02:34 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: chas1]
i-Fish Online   content
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Registered: 06/07/16
Posts: 407
How does one transfer a trailer title to yourself? I bought a boat recently and not sure how togo about it so I can sell it properly...
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#12458024 - 10/08/17 02:47 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: chas1]
ChuChu1 Offline
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Registered: 03/08/10
Posts: 3099
Loc: Gonzales, Tx
It's pretty simple,
Boat-title
Motor- title
Trailer- title or bill of sale depending on gvwr.

I just bought a river boat, motor, and trailer. It had been sold, sold again and no transfer of tities. Since I knew the original owner, I bought the boat. motor, and trailer because I could get his signatures. It did come at a price to the second owner. I paid 1/2 of his asking price because I had to get the titles and bill of sale.
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#12458027 - 10/08/17 02:48 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: i-Fish]
ChuChu1 Offline
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Registered: 03/08/10
Posts: 3099
Loc: Gonzales, Tx
Originally Posted By: i-Fish
How does one transfer a trailer title to yourself? I bought a boat recently and not sure how togo about it so I can sell it properly...


Does the trailer have a title? Depends on GVWR. May just need a Bill of Sale.
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#12458107 - 10/08/17 03:43 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: ssmith]
chas1 Offline
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Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 395
Loc: Stephenville tx.
Originally Posted By: ssmith
in tx motors have to be titled to be able to be sold legally a lot of folks don't do because game wardens don't check the motor serial number on a lake stop.the reason some don't do it is because they don't want to pay taxes an registration on them.


Iím sorry , what I meant to say was he did transfer the title from the previous owner to himself and do the proper paperwork on the boat only nothing on the motor

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#12458112 - 10/08/17 03:48 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: chas1]
chas1 Offline
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Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 395
Loc: Stephenville tx.
The last two boats I purchased the owners lied about paperwork on the trailer, so call your insurance company and tell them you got a homemade trailer, theyíre gonna want lots of pictures and they will see this is not a homemade trailer , There in lies the problem
Next tell them that you want your motor insured, the insurance company will not ensure a motor that is not in your name

Fed up

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#12458134 - 10/08/17 03:58 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: chas1]
GROD Online   content
Extreme Angler

Registered: 09/12/10
Posts: 1247
Loc: Eagle Mountain
When you're buying an older used boat, a lot will be titled homemade trailer.. doesn't make them illegal. Boat and motor need a title though.


Edited by GROD (10/08/17 03:59 PM)

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#12458174 - 10/08/17 04:21 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: GROD]
chas1 Offline
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Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 395
Loc: Stephenville tx.
Originally Posted By: GROD
When you're buying an older used boat, a lot will be titled homemade trailer.. doesn't make them illegal. Boat and motor need a title though.

I agree some trailers are homemade , But what Iím finding over and over again is the person not doing the proper paperwork and just filling out a form saying itís a homemade trailer at the tax registration office

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#12458190 - 10/08/17 04:32 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: chas1]
Bobby Milam Online   content
Extreme Angler

Registered: 07/13/14
Posts: 2886
Loc: Arlington
You run into the untitled motors all the time that they try and tell you that you don't need it. They can't even sell it that way. No title then no sale to me

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#12458219 - 10/08/17 05:00 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: chas1]
ssfireman Online   content
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Registered: 03/31/05
Posts: 2828
Loc: Dallas
+1
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#12458457 - 10/08/17 07:25 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: ChuChu1]
kevine80 Online   content
Pro Angler

Registered: 11/20/15
Posts: 517
Loc: humble texas
Originally Posted By: ChuChu1
It's pretty simple,
Boat-title
Motor- title
Trailer- title or bill of sale depending on gvwr.

I just bought a river boat, motor, and trailer. It had been sold, sold again and no transfer of tities. Since I knew the original owner, I bought the boat. motor, and trailer because I could get his signatures. It did come at a price to the second owner. I paid 1/2 of his asking price because I had to get the titles and bill of sale.


this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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#12458474 - 10/08/17 07:36 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: kevine80]
SteezMacQueen Online   sleepy
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Registered: 11/02/14
Posts: 4343
Loc: Red Oak, Galveston, and Pagosa...
Originally Posted By: kevine80
Originally Posted By: ChuChu1
It's pretty simple,
Boat-title
Motor- title
Trailer- title or bill of sale depending on gvwr.

I just bought a river boat, motor, and trailer. It had been sold, sold again and no transfer of tities. Since I knew the original owner, I bought the boat. motor, and trailer because I could get his signatures. It did come at a price to the second owner. I paid 1/2 of his asking price because I had to get the titles and bill of sale.


this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Actually it's "^^^^^this", plus a had written bill of sale with both the boat I'd number, TX#, and a specific dollar amount and the engine serial number or TX#, with its specific dollar amount. Additionally a specific dollar amount for the trailer is needed on this same bill of sale.

So

Here it is.

Signed title of boat
Signed title of motor
A written bill of sale for all three with dollar amounts for each
Numbers on the bill of sale matching the boat and motor to the sale


Simple....yeh right.

when I went to the TPWD to do all this a while back, I told the girl there" I read the boat registration "matrix"" and then I said screw it.....and got all the papers and just made the drive. She said their process is confusing for their own employees....and almost impossible for a regular person to comprehend.
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#12458507 - 10/08/17 07:56 PM Re: Why arenít people titling their motors ? [Re: SteezMacQueen]
chas1 Offline
Angler

Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 395
Loc: Stephenville tx.
Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Originally Posted By: kevine80
Originally Posted By: ChuChu1
It's pretty simple,
Boat-title
Motor- title
Trailer- title or bill of sale depending on gvwr.

I just bought a river boat, motor, and trailer. It had been sold, sold again and no transfer of tities. Since I knew the original owner, I bought the boat. motor, and trailer because I could get his signatures. It did come at a price to the second owner. I paid 1/2 of his asking price because I had to get the titles and bill of sale.


this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Actually it's "^^^^^this", plus a had written bill of sale with both the boat I'd number, TX#, and a specific dollar amount and the engine serial number or TX#, with its specific dollar amount. Additionally a specific dollar amount for the trailer is needed on this same bill of sale.

So

Here it is.

Signed title of boat
Signed title of motor
A written bill of sale for all three with dollar amounts for each
Numbers on the bill of sale matching the boat and motor to the sale


Simple....yeh right.

when I went to the TPWD to do all this a while back, I told the girl there" I read the boat registration "matrix"" and then I said screw it.....and got all the papers and just made the drive. She said their process is confusing for their own employees....and almost impossible for a regular person to comprehend.

The reason Texas Parks and wildlife has gotten tougher is due to the amount of fake documents turned in by fisherman

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