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#12444869 - 09/27/17 10:20 PM Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews??
JB in Ft Worth Offline
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Registered: 02/21/14
Posts: 182
Anyone care to share their experience / opinion on the Garmin echoMAP 93sv? I see it at Cabela's for $800 which seems like a decent price. Is the echoMAP a newer product line than the Helix?

I currently have a Lowrance elite-7 at the console and would like to move up to something with SI capability. I will probably mount the new sonar on the console and the old Lowrance on the bow. I guess an alternative would be to mount a cheaper SI unit at the bow.

Also, I have a Minnkota Terrova with the built-in transducer. I don't think the Minnkota will connect directly to the Lowrance - I think it requires an adapter. Can anyone confirm?

Thanks!
JB

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#12445099 - 09/28/17 07:37 AM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: JB in Ft Worth]
joho5 Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 07/03/08
Posts: 2824
Loc: Abbott, TX
I have the 73sv and love it. I have a 93sv coming that I will put up at my trolling motor. The ease of menus, clear picture, and price...its hard to beat IMO.

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#12445198 - 09/28/17 08:49 AM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: JB in Ft Worth]
Capt Craig Online   content
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Registered: 08/25/09
Posts: 1427
Loc: Richland-Chambers
Just say no.

Garmin is a step down from Lowrance which is a step down from Humminbird. Garmin stole Navico's (Lowrance) down imaging technology, which is funny because Navico stole side imaging from Humminbird.

If you want the best features and abilities, Humminbird is the industry leader. Helix is much better than the EchoMap. HB provides a comparable unit that has 3 programmable buttons so you have quick access to your preferred screens, Garmin doesn't. The HB is priced at $1000. Garmin was at a $1000 and recently dropped the price making me think that they are phasing it out.

All Minn Kota TM's require an adapter to fit any sonar series.
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#12445788 - 09/28/17 05:50 PM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: JB in Ft Worth]
dk2429 Offline
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Registered: 03/28/16
Posts: 247
Loc: Pearland, TX
I've ran them all, and my favorite is Garmin. The echoMap units are bad [censored]. You won't be disappointed.

Out off all the units I've ran/used, I'd say..

1- Garmin
2- Lowrance
3- Simrad
4- Humminbird
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#12446033 - 09/28/17 08:46 PM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: Capt Craig]
Bossbowman Offline
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Registered: 03/14/05
Posts: 2863
Loc: Hill county
Originally Posted By: Capt Craig
Just say no.

Garmin is a step down from Lowrance which is a step down from Humminbird. Garmin stole Navico's (Lowrance) down imaging technology, which is funny because Navico stole side imaging from Humminbird.

If you want the best features and abilities, Humminbird is the industry leader. Helix is much better than the EchoMap. HB provides a comparable unit that has 3 programmable buttons so you have quick access to your preferred screens, Garmin doesn't. The HB is priced at $1000. Garmin was at a $1000 and recently dropped the price making me think that they are phasing it out.

All Minn Kota TM's require an adapter to fit any sonar series.


I would highly disagree, I've demoed them all, Humminbird has the best image, Garmin is 2nd and Lowrance 3rd. If you want features and abilities Lowrance is the winner that has always been their niche you can tweak all kinds of things but its not for beginners and you have to know what your doing to dial them in, Garmins image is very good right out of the box, much more user friendly and intuitive. As far as getting the most for your money Garmin wins easily, also if you not flush mounting your electronics and putting them on a ram or balzout mount garmins gimbal mount is the most durable well built of the three, birds are the worst.


Edited by Bossbowman (10/03/17 11:25 AM)

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#12446192 - 09/28/17 09:57 PM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: JB in Ft Worth]
JB in Ft Worth Offline
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Registered: 02/21/14
Posts: 182
I appreciate all the responses. I'm kind of a novice, so ease of use and clear image are a plus. It's taken me a while to get the Lowrance dialed in and sometimes it still feels like a lot of guesswork. I may go down to Cabela's tomorrow and try some hands-on shopping. I don't have to make a purchase right away, but I'm going up to Texhoma in two weeks and it would be nice to try out the new electronics there.

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#12446348 - 09/29/17 05:51 AM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: JB in Ft Worth]
danceswithbass Offline
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Registered: 06/29/05
Posts: 718
Loc: Flower Mound
The images aren't bad on the Garmins, but the user interface is pretty clunky. I bought a 73sv for the bow to use Panoptix, and I dont like the built in lake maps nearly as much as my Navionics cards (and they cant take Navionics). I have HDS touch units on the console and on my other boat, and man its hard to go non touch once you are used to it.

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#12446371 - 09/29/17 06:24 AM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: JB in Ft Worth]
Skeeter man ZX225 Offline
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Registered: 05/30/03
Posts: 2630
I had the Garmin 93 sv, I liked it, except for the details are not near as good as the display makes it out to be. but for me I will never go back to Garmin again. the unit has a quick release on it so you dont have to disconnect cables and unscrew anything to remove it from your boat: well that is the problem the unit at 60 MPH popped out and is at the bottom of lake Lewisville I was not even in rough water and had run the lake all morning before this happened. It is a [censored] design. I am now going to the Humminbird Mega which is the best out there right now. Good luck

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#12446535 - 09/29/17 09:13 AM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: Skeeter man ZX225]
joho5 Offline
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Registered: 07/03/08
Posts: 2824
Loc: Abbott, TX
Originally Posted By: Skeeter man ZX225
I had the Garmin 93 sv, I liked it, except for the details are not near as good as the display makes it out to be. but for me I will never go back to Garmin again. the unit has a quick release on it so you dont have to disconnect cables and unscrew anything to remove it from your boat: well that is the problem the unit at 60 MPH popped out and is at the bottom of lake Lewisville I was not even in rough water and had run the lake all morning before this happened. It is a [censored] design. I am now going to the Humminbird Mega which is the best out there right now. Good luck


I cant even hardly get mine loose...I end up cussing trying to get it off when I am done fishing and taking the unit apart.

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#12446880 - 09/29/17 12:23 PM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: JB in Ft Worth]
Capt Craig Online   content
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Registered: 08/25/09
Posts: 1427
Loc: Richland-Chambers
The settings for Garmin, Simrad, and Lowrance are not intuitive and are more difficult to access. Their settings require much more tweaking in order to achieve the best results and require a lot of back adn forth adjustment. The available settings are fewer than HB on all of these units and the ability to access the sub-menus is more difficult.

All but HB leave the color bar off the units making it impossible to know what the available color palette has available for the softest return to the hardest echo return.

When it comes to the HB units, especially the Helix series, when units are set to my preferred standards, they are set nearly perfect. I have not been able to achieve that with any other sonar series. I have used many units and taught more than 50 students in the last 2 years and no units is as easy to get dialed in as HB.

I do agree that everyone likes and dislikes certain units and must find the one that works best for them. When assessing a unit, ignore the simulation screen! Try getting to the menus and sub-menus easily, determine what it takes to go from screen to screen, how difficult is it to mark a waypoint or alter the waypoint info. I much prefer a button unit and dislike a touchscreen as the screen gets marked up with fingerprints and smudges. Remember, you are using the unit on the water while moving and rocking, not standing still. You need to be able to go between views and screens easily and with minimum attention. If the units are not friendly enough, you spend all your time messing with it and not fishing.
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2013 Nautic Star 2110 Shallow Bay Boat
Humminbird HELIX 12 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N
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#12447379 - 09/29/17 08:41 PM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: Capt Craig]
dk2429 Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 03/28/16
Posts: 247
Loc: Pearland, TX
Originally Posted By: Capt Craig
The settings for Garmin, Simrad, and Lowrance are not intuitive and are more difficult to access. Their settings require much more tweaking in order to achieve the best results and require a lot of back adn forth adjustment. The available settings are fewer than HB on all of these units and the ability to access the sub-menus is more difficult.

All but HB leave the color bar off the units making it impossible to know what the available color palette has available for the softest return to the hardest echo return.

When it comes to the HB units, especially the Helix series, when units are set to my preferred standards, they are set nearly perfect. I have not been able to achieve that with any other sonar series. I have used many units and taught more than 50 students in the last 2 years and no units is as easy to get dialed in as HB.

I do agree that everyone likes and dislikes certain units and must find the one that works best for them. When assessing a unit, ignore the simulation screen! Try getting to the menus and sub-menus easily, determine what it takes to go from screen to screen, how difficult is it to mark a waypoint or alter the waypoint info. I much prefer a button unit and dislike a touchscreen as the screen gets marked up with fingerprints and smudges. Remember, you are using the unit on the water while moving and rocking, not standing still. You need to be able to go between views and screens easily and with minimum attention. If the units are not friendly enough, you spend all your time messing with it and not fishing.


I'm not saying you are wrong, everyone has their opinions.. But I will say, out of all the brands, I found Humminbird to be the most difficult to operate. Garmin by FAR FAR the easiest... A good way to put it is, Garmin is like an iPhone, Humminbird is like an Android. The Hummnibirds have a lot of buttons to press to just do simple things. Garmin's home screen is very straight forward. Example.. Garmin : To get the nav chart, all you do is hit charts, then nav chart, and you're there. On the Humminbirds, you have to press that view/exit button 100 times until you find the chart. Big turn off to me. I like just straight forward to press the button, and my screen pops up.

OP, go play with them. They are all great. I'll admit, Humminbird has the best sonar picture. But if you are looking for ease of use and still great picture, Garmin all the way. I also like the fact that the charts are already built in instead of paying an extra $200 for a navionics card. From my experience, Humminbird also has a rather slow refresh rate on the map (laggy at high speeds.) I can run 60+ and my Garmin stays right on time with very little to no lag at all.


Edited by dk2429 (09/29/17 08:42 PM)
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#12447981 - 09/30/17 04:05 PM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: JB in Ft Worth]
BKT Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 09/27/13
Posts: 1282
Loc: Apple Springs
I have a Garmin echomap chirp 73sv and a Humminbird Helix. I like them both and I do think the bird gives slightly better images but like the maps and user interface of the Garmin better.

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#12452932 - 10/04/17 12:13 PM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: Capt Craig]
coachallentca Offline
TFF Team Angler

Registered: 11/19/08
Posts: 3987
Loc: crowley
Originally Posted By: Capt Craig
The settings for Garmin, Simrad, and Lowrance are not intuitive and are more difficult to access. Their settings require much more tweaking in order to achieve the best results and require a lot of back adn forth adjustment. The available settings are fewer than HB on all of these units and the ability to access the sub-menus is more difficult.

All but HB leave the color bar off the units making it impossible to know what the available color palette has available for the softest return to the hardest echo return.

When it comes to the HB units, especially the Helix series, when units are set to my preferred standards, they are set nearly perfect. I have not been able to achieve that with any other sonar series. I have used many units and taught more than 50 students in the last 2 years and no units is as easy to get dialed in as HB.

I do agree that everyone likes and dislikes certain units and must find the one that works best for them. When assessing a unit, ignore the simulation screen! Try getting to the menus and sub-menus easily, determine what it takes to go from screen to screen, how difficult is it to mark a waypoint or alter the waypoint info. I much prefer a button unit and dislike a touchscreen as the screen gets marked up with fingerprints and smudges. Remember, you are using the unit on the water while moving and rocking, not standing still. You need to be able to go between views and screens easily and with minimum attention. If the units are not friendly enough, you spend all your time messing with it and not fishing.


Hogwash.. Garmin you can use right out of the box and NOT change any settings. I have ran all 3.. bird, Lowrance and Garmin. Garmin and Bird are easy to use right out of the box. Once you get Lowrance dialed in they are the best. I run and Garmin and before that a bird before that lowarnce.. I can show on my Garmin and will compare to any unit and I like the ease of Garmin. I like bird but with garmin I get panoptix.
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#12454924 - 10/05/17 09:07 PM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: JB in Ft Worth]
D-lee Offline
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Registered: 11/15/15
Posts: 200
Loc: Alvarado ,TX
I have 2 93svs for sale on the forum if ur interested

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#12454987 - 10/05/17 09:53 PM Re: Garmin echoMAP 93sv - Reviews?? [Re: JB in Ft Worth]
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Originally Posted By: JB in Ft Worth
I appreciate all the responses. I'm kind of a novice, so ease of use and clear image are a plus. It's taken me a while to get the Lowrance dialed in and sometimes it still feels like a lot of guesswork. I may go down to Cabela's tomorrow and try some hands-on shopping. I don't have to make a purchase right away, but I'm going up to Texhoma in two weeks and it would be nice to try out the new electronics there.


JB, Feel free to give me a call direct. I would be happy to assist you if needed. I am Humminbird exclusive by choice however, I can assist you with Lowrance if you so desire. I simply do not carry Garmin. Humminbird Mega is producing some of the best images I have ever come across and the ease of navigating the settings is by far the simplest of all manufactures.



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